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 #1751430


Ammeratsu
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 Fire Bellied Toads Help With Gender? (PICTURE HEAVY)

I have three fire bellied toads which I believe are two females and one male.

This is Flame, my thought-to-be male:





This is Twister, my thought-to-be female:





And this is Wrath, my thought-to-be female:





I do here a little calling once in a while, but I can’t really tell which one it comes from.



05/30/08  07:47pm

 #1751668


Blue eyed cutie
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  Message To: Ammeratsu   In reference to Message Id: 1751430


 Fire Bellied Toads Help With Gender? (PICTURE HEAVY)

it is how i tell if mine are male or female so keep in mind it is what i think.

usually the males webbing on the back feet go all the way to the top of the middle toe or almost to the top. the females webbing usually only goes to the middle. and of course males call and females dont. anyway if you would post some pic’s of the toes spred out to reveal (sorry my spelling) the webbing i would be glad to help you out. if not and you think you have it under contral then good luck! hope i helped!

Kae (blue eyed cutie)



05/30/08  11:25pm

 #1751683


Ammeratsu
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  Message To: Blue eyed cutie   In reference to Message Id: 1751668


 Fire Bellied Toads Help With Gender? (PICTURE HEAVY)

Pics coming. =)



05/30/08  11:52pm

 #1751698


Ammeratsu
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  Message To: Ammeratsu   In reference to Message Id: 1751683


 Fire Bellied Toads Help With Gender? (PICTURE HEAVY)

No offense, but I don’t think that method works. =/ I think I may have figured out all genders just by trying to get pictures of their feet. xDD

I got a couple pitcures of Flame’s feet and they were only half way up the middle toe. Then, he started chirping, so I’m like, "Oh, okay, male. Maybe I can do that to the rest." So I did and they all chirped, but in much different tones. Does that mean they’re all male?



05/31/08  12:03am

 #1751703


Ammeratsu
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  Message To: Ammeratsu   In reference to Message Id: 1751698


 Fire Bellied Toads Help With Gender? (PICTURE HEAVY)

You know, I thought I read something about the white on their sides, somewhere, but don’t remember what. =/ Did anybody else come across that?



05/31/08  12:09am

 #1751892


Shadowcat0789
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  Message To: Ammeratsu   In reference to Message Id: 1751703


 Fire Bellied Toads Help With Gender? (PICTURE HEAVY)

Based on the little that i know and have read, I’m gonna say that all of yours are male. Males are generally smaller than females and have more bumps. Also, I’m pretty sure that females make no noise at all but I’m not certain. I’ve only had my fbt for a few days so i don’t have much experiance yet



05/31/08  09:55am

 #1751919


Ammeratsu
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  Message To: Shadowcat0789   In reference to Message Id: 1751892


 Fire Bellied Toads Help With Gender? (PICTURE HEAVY)

I’m not sure about Twister, though. She(I think) seems to have less bumpy skin and thinner fore-arms



05/31/08  10:37am

 #1751922


Metalsapo
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  Message To: Ammeratsu   In reference to Message Id: 1751919


 Fire Bellied Toads Help With Gender? (PICTURE HEAVY)

Warth and twister are females, and flame i think its a male, but your toads are so fat.
EO



05/31/08  10:40am

 #1751933


Blue eyed cutie
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  Message To: Metalsapo   In reference to Message Id: 1751922


 Fire Bellied Toads Help With Gender? (PICTURE HEAVY)

lol i think they are soooooo cute when they are fat! lol your toads are great! lol that is fine if you do not think it works that is your opi. lol o and i forgt to mention in my last message that the females middle toe on the back (were i told you the webbing is) seems to be longer then the males.

here are their pic’s of the feet:


this pic is of my European FBT Eclipse (Male)



this pic is of my other European FBT Kala (Female)


Can you see the difforents in the shap of the toes and feet?

Kae (blue eyed cutie)



05/31/08  10:51am

 #1751939


Ammeratsu
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  Message To: Blue eyed cutie   In reference to Message Id: 1751933


 Fire Bellied Toads Help With Gender? (PICTURE HEAVY)

Yeah, now I can. I’ll take another look at their feet



05/31/08  10:57am

 #1752019


Ammeratsu
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  Message To: Ammeratsu   In reference to Message Id: 1751939


 Fire Bellied Toads Help With Gender? (PICTURE HEAVY)

From they’re feet, I’ve concluded that I have two females and a male. =)



05/31/08  12:52pm

 #1752021


Ammeratsu
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  Message To: Ammeratsu   In reference to Message Id: 1751939


 Fire Bellied Toads Help With Gender? (PICTURE HEAVY)

And I would get pics, but I’m highly discouraged from touching them anymore today. xDD I was in the middle of holding one’s foot out when I had an itch on my nose. I rubbed my nose and got her toxins in it. It started burning like mad and I was sneezing every three seconds. xDDD You should see my dest, covered in tissues. xDDD



05/31/08  12:53pm

 #1752027


Keechoo
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  Message To: Ammeratsu   In reference to Message Id: 1752019


 Fire Bellied Toads Help With Gender? (PICTURE HEAVY)

Females will call especially if they don’t like what is going on (holding them). Females are larger than males unless they are under nourished. As for the bumps, some of my females are much bumpier than the guys.



05/31/08  12:57pm

 #1752056


Ammeratsu
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  Message To: Keechoo   In reference to Message Id: 1752027


 Fire Bellied Toads Help With Gender? (PICTURE HEAVY)

Okay, so what do you think about mine, Keechoo? Male or female?

Flame seems to be male, but he’s really bumpy but has a shorter middle toe.

Twister seems to be male because I here him call sometimes, and he has less bumpy skin.

Wrath seems to be female just about everything except for her skin. O.o

I’m terrible at this. xDDD



05/31/08  01:35pm

 #1752115


Elisa
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  Message To: Ammeratsu   In reference to Message Id: 1751430


 Fire Bellied Toads Help With Gender? (PICTURE HEAVY)

The gold standard that I have seen for gender is watching their behavior and the noises they make. Males make the "ooo" noise, sounding like an owl hooting, or a puppy barking (what someone said they thought it sounds like), they are the aggressors and will try to latch on to other males or females alike. The females are generally more round, their bellies rounder, their toes longer and more slender, and their forearms are thinner, fewer bumps, and they do make noise, but not the "ooo" noise, just a little grunting noise when they are held down or annoyed by a male who is in their face. None of my females have ever made a noise other than the grunt. The females are generally less aggressive and by watching the dynamic in the cage, you should be able to tell. It is not that difficult really.



05/31/08  02:28pm

 #1752165


Ammeratsu
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  Message To: Elisa   In reference to Message Id: 1752115


 Fire Bellied Toads Help With Gender? (PICTURE HEAVY)

All of mine grunt. O.o I’ve never heard an "oo" Noise. Jeez. xDD I’m jumping between all male to all female to some male some female. My toads are all fat, so I can’t use the rounder thing, but you could look at their toes and tell me what you think. =D I’ve never been good with genders.



05/31/08  03:24pm

 #1752378


Keechoo
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  Message To: Ammeratsu   In reference to Message Id: 1752165


 Fire Bellied Toads Help With Gender? (PICTURE HEAVY)

Try to get pictures with their back toes spread out. Has any done the grabbing? Or do they all do it?



06/02/08  04:47pm

 #1754244


Ammeratsu
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  Message To: Keechoo   In reference to Message Id: 1752378


 Fire Bellied Toads Help With Gender? (PICTURE HEAVY)

I tried to get pictures of their feet, but I couldn’t. They struggled and moved and I couldn’t do it. Then, I just became discouraged from even touching them because I rubbed my nose after fighting with them to get pictures of their feet and it burnt soo bad. xDD If anybody could tell from the pics I have of their feet? I can try again, though.



06/07/08  12:46pm

 #1754448


Blue eyed cutie
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  Message To: Ammeratsu   In reference to Message Id: 1751430


 Fire Bellied Toads Help With Gender? (PICTURE HEAVY)

ok so i have looked at your pic’s and from what i can see you have 3 females. it is hard to tell but that is what i can see from these pic’s (but these pic’s are not that clear) so if you want to try again then that is up to you.



Kae



06/07/08  05:06pm

 #1830104


DEvin1145
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  Message To: Blue eyed cutie   In reference to Message Id: 1754448


 Fire Bellied Toads Help With Gender? (PICTURE HEAVY)

alright im not sure exactly hhow to sex them i do belive it has to do with the chirping pitch males ar usually a deeper picth than the females and the only time ive heard my feamle chirp is when the males kept climbing on her and it wasnt even really a chirp also females do get bgger than the male i know ive breed my fbt like 5 or 6 time know so good luck



08/13/08  08:20pm

 #1831039


1stimefirebellybreed
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  Message To: Ammeratsu   In reference to Message Id: 1751430


 Fire Bellied Toads Help With Gender? (PICTURE HEAVY)

i have three firebellys of my own, and we just got them like a week ago. I heard the thing about the extra long toe, and the one about the males have spots and females have lines, but believe it or not, mine are totally different than all them and my female proves everybody wrong. according to all of this stuff i have three males, but surprise i have eggs in my tank. this is actually our first year breeding them, so if anyone has bred them before and has any advice i’d appreciate it. but our female has spots and lines, so does one of our males. and our female has not that long of a finger. the only rules she follows in terms of sexes so far is she doesnt bark , mount the other frogs, and she doesnt shake the males off. When we got our first two, we thought we had a male and a female, nope wrong, both tried mounting each other and they both gave an unmount call, and then the other hopped off. one thing i did find out from researching is that if a male tries to mount a male, he will give an unmount call and the other one will hop off and i also saw it with my firebellys. then when we bought our last one since we thought itd be cool to have a big fat one, we realized it was a female after both mated with her. if it is a female, she will let the male ride on her back, holding on just in front of her back legs, and she will swim and go about her thing until he is done fertilizing. The women dont give out an unmount call to what i have seen so far. and also we put a cove in our tank for her to hide eggs once she deposited them, and wouldnt u know, as soon as i saw her go in there, right after she came out we had eggs. so i’ve discovered which is which just by the barking they do and their mating traits.



08/14/08  05:19pm


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