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LadyMudflap32
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 FBT question

I have two fire belly toads I have recently put into a 55 gallon tank. Now that they have all this room it has become obvious they are both male. They both bark constantly and keep getting on top of one another. Will they be happy with just the two of them or should I get a female? I was planning on getting a few more later on since the tank is so large but right now I am concerned for the smaller one who keeps getting treated like a girl (if you know what I mean). Anybody else have just males in their tanks and if so does it work out ok?
07/13/09  09:43am

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Bellle_foudre
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   Message To: LadyMudflap32   In reference to Message Id: 2038455


 FBT question

I have 3 and 2 are males. For a 55 gallon, if you can afford to feed them, I would get about a dozen! They are just trying to domonate each other, the smaller one probably is doing it just the same when your not around. (thats how my males behave) and since you have so much space you should think about dividing the tank off with a piece of plexi glass. That way you can have a water area and also a dry land area. I dont know that some peoples FBT’s prefer dry land, mine do not. But you certianly have enough space for plenty of toads!
07/13/09  10:10am

 #2038489


LadyMudflap32
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   Message To: Bellle_foudre   In reference to Message Id: 2038464


 FBT question




(I hope that worked right lol) This is how I have the tank set up now. They seem to like the water the most. They will lay under where the water comes out of the filter. I do want some more. I started off with them in the 10 gallon but I just knew I could make a great habitat out of this big one. The guy I bought the tank from had it set up for lizards but frogs/toads are much more my speed. Do you think it will be ok if I add them 2 at a time? My pet store guy doesn’t get them in very often and I would hate to buy all of his on the day they come in lol. Thanks for the help!
07/13/09  11:07am

 #2038731


Sh0e
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   Message To: LadyMudflap32   In reference to Message Id: 2038489


 FBT question

be careful when adding new animals to your existing population. You could house anywhere from 8 to 15ish in a fifteen in that enclosure. I would get more, but I would house them separately for a quarantine period first. There’s nothing more annoying than buying new frogs and adding them too soon; a round of chytrid, or any number of bacteria, fungus, or parasite infection and you can look at heavy losses.

FBT’s are communal animals though. Sitting on top of each other is just something they like to do. Even if you have a dozen they’ll travel around in a pack and stick together for the most part.
07/13/09  05:08pm

 #2039299


LadyMudflap32
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   Message To: Sh0e   In reference to Message Id: 2038731


 FBT question

Thanks for all the help. I think I am going to keep it at about 8 in there. That should give them plenty of company but not over crowd the tank. How long should I leave the new ones in the quarantine tank? I would like to put some small fish in the water side (minnows or those weird shrimp things they sell) anybody have any luck with that?



07/14/09  06:33pm

 #2039409


Sh0e
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   Message To: LadyMudflap32   In reference to Message Id: 2039299


 FBT question

I would avoid the minnows. Fish can muck up water fairly fast and house parasites and FBT’s produce lots of toxins themselves, neither would benefit from that. The shrimp might be able to help clean up decaying material, but they are typically very delicate.

If you get a strong filter on the water you might be able to get away with shrimp, but remember that you’ll have to let your tank cycle first to attempt that. Aquariums take abouth a month to cycle, you can test your water to make sure the amonia and nitrites are gone before you add anything to live in the water.

As far as tank mates I can’t suggest too much. Some Nerelite snails like zebra snails might be nice, they’ll come out of the water completely. They do lay little white eggs that won’t hatch unless plenty of salt is in the water. On the one hand it’s nice because they won’t overpopulate the tank, on the other hand you have to scrape eggs off the tank. I think a nice setup with some aquatic plants, pothos, bog wood and rocks sticking in and out of the water would make a great home for FBT’s. Fish are an added risk. Shrimp might not last too long. If you must try a fish or two go with a non agressive hardy one that stays small, mollies, endler’s livebearers, guppies, danios, and small tetras.



07/14/09  09:21pm

 #2051169


StickMan95
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   Message To: Sh0e   In reference to Message Id: 2039409


 FBT question

i personally havent heard of anyone successfully keeping fish alive with firebellies due to their toxins. their poisons will enter the water and, if the water is not frequently changed, will die as a result. as previously mentioned, cycling is your biggest concern for both toads and fish but please remember to weekly place the 1/4 of the water (i recomend a syphon)
08/04/09  11:47pm


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