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Patrick & April View Profile |
Help!!! Found in front yard. WOOOOW!!!!
Can anyone ID him???????? Please Help. I need to get his diet and environment proper.
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| 06/14/08 11:22pm |
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Gottee guy View Profile |
Message To: Patrick & April In reference to Message Id: 1761212 Help!!! Found in front yard. WOOOOW!!!!
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| 06/14/08 11:26pm |
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Shadowcat0789 View Profile |
Message To: Gottee guy In reference to Message Id: 1761218 Help!!! Found in front yard. WOOOOW!!!!
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| 06/14/08 11:54pm |
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Patrick & April View Profile |
Message To: Gottee guy In reference to Message Id: 1761218 Help!!! Found in front yard. WOOOOW!!!!
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| 06/14/08 11:56pm |
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Reptilefreak23 View Profile |
Message To: Patrick & April In reference to Message Id: 1761247 Help!!! Found in front yard. WOOOOW!!!!
and ...are you KIDDING ME THAT POOR THING... was probably taken from his native habitat in TEXAS, NEW MEXICO, AND THE REST OF TORNADO ALLY.... sry but you have to find a way to get him back here.... poor thing, it cant take that cold weather. it and its subsprecies the desert box turtle are the most land bound and harmest weather of the boxes. Good Luck with him! |
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| 06/15/08 12:20am |
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Patrick & April View Profile |
Message To: Reptilefreak23 In reference to Message Id: 1761266 Help!!! Found in front yard. WOOOOW!!!!
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| 06/15/08 01:00am |
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TurtleBites View Profile |
Message To: Patrick & April In reference to Message Id: 1761306 Help!!! Found in front yard. WOOOOW!!!!
should never let turtles roam. no telling what it could get into. its use to being out in the wild amongst trees, grass, and sunlight. NOT furniture, people, and carpet. you just took a turtle from its natural habitat with out even knowing what it is and what its care requirements are. Good job! |
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| 06/15/08 01:07am |
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Patrick & April View Profile |
Message To: TurtleBites In reference to Message Id: 1761310 Help!!! Found in front yard. WOOOOW!!!!
Did you read the original posts. I live in Vancouver Canada. If you look on CNN this is not a desert climate. I knew right away that I saved this animal from unnaturally climate and food changes. I am not the nature rapist you are claiming me to be. I said I need Help not criticism. |
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| 06/15/08 01:21am |
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Tballou View Profile |
Message To: Patrick & April In reference to Message Id: 1761322 Help!!! Found in front yard. WOOOOW!!!!
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| 06/15/08 02:49am |
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Patrick & April View Profile |
Message To: Tballou In reference to Message Id: 1761358 Help!!! Found in front yard. WOOOOW!!!!
Thanks for the support. If the thing was not eating or "LIVING" I would have handed him to a Vet. I have kept many aboriginal pets previously successfully but this one was "on my doorstep" I will keep him and make sure he is kept well as he is doing so well now on "CARPET"!!!! Thanks Everyone PP Will post more pics later!!! FROM CANADA |
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| 06/15/08 03:03am |
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RepticTay View Profile |
Message To: Patrick & April In reference to Message Id: 1761364 Help!!! Found in front yard. WOOOOW!!!!
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| 06/15/08 06:25am |
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Gottee guy View Profile |
Message To: RepticTay In reference to Message Id: 1761397 Help!!! Found in front yard. WOOOOW!!!!
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| 06/15/08 07:47am |
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Gottee guy View Profile |
Message To: Gottee guy In reference to Message Id: 1761409 Help!!! Found in front yard. WOOOOW!!!!
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| 06/15/08 07:49am |
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Gottee guy View Profile |
Message To: Gottee guy In reference to Message Id: 1761411 Help!!! Found in front yard. WOOOOW!!!!
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| 06/15/08 07:53am |
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AnoComplex View Profile |
Message To: Gottee guy In reference to Message Id: 1761412 Help!!! Found in front yard. WOOOOW!!!!
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| 06/15/08 08:04am |
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Shannon35 View Profile |
Message To: Patrick & April In reference to Message Id: 1761364 Help!!! Found in front yard. WOOOOW!!!!
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| 06/15/08 09:45am |
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Gottee guy View Profile |
Message To: Shannon35 In reference to Message Id: 1761478 Help!!! Found in front yard. WOOOOW!!!!
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| 06/15/08 09:54am |
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Tballou View Profile |
Message To: Gottee guy In reference to Message Id: 1761484 Help!!! Found in front yard. WOOOOW!!!!
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| 06/15/08 11:37am |
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Reptilefreak23 View Profile |
Message To: Tballou In reference to Message Id: 1761583 Help!!! Found in front yard. WOOOOW!!!!
he found it. and gottee guy, they dont just live in texas they live in other states as well Good Luck with him |
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| 06/15/08 01:04pm |
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Gottee guy View Profile |
Message To: Reptilefreak23 In reference to Message Id: 1761671 Help!!! Found in front yard. WOOOOW!!!!
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| 06/15/08 04:19pm |
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Reptilefreak23 View Profile |
Message To: Gottee guy In reference to Message Id: 1761837 Help!!! Found in front yard. WOOOOW!!!!
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| 06/15/08 04:37pm |
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Shadowcat0789 View Profile |
Message To: Reptilefreak23 In reference to Message Id: 1761856
Turtles need UVB light as well as heat. Box turtles eat dark leafy veggies such as Kale, spinich, ummm... other dark leafy greens that I can’t think of right now cuz i’ve had a long day... Stay away from most all lettuce ESPECIALLY iceburg lettuce bc there is no nutritional value whatsoever. As I stated earlier box turtles need room to roam about. If you feel comfortable letting it run around your house then by all mean go for it but I would at least keep it confined to a room for the sake of the animal’s well-being. If you choose to keep it in a cage you should get at least a 3-4’ by 3-4’ cage for it so it can have room to roam. The cage would be easier to clean and regulate the temperature and lighting but can be expensive. I suggest getting a heavy shallow water bowl for it because I think they like to sit in the water but don’t quote me on that. I think I hit on just about everything major. If you have any questions I can try to answer them and if I can’t then I know a few other people who know a lot about turtles and I can ask them. I hope this helps and Good Luck! |
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| 06/15/08 11:17pm |
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Reptilefreak23 View Profile |
Message To: Shadowcat0789 In reference to Message Id: 1762285 Help!!! Found in front yard. WOOOOW!!!!
"since I am the only one saying anything helpfull" r ukidding me? look at the beginning of the post before it got off subject when I said it was from the tornado alley area. please read the WHOLE post before you criticize anybody next time. thankyou |
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| 06/15/08 11:37pm |
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Shadowcat0789 View Profile |
Message To: Reptilefreak23 In reference to Message Id: 1762305 Help!!! Found in front yard. WOOOOW!!!!
Quote: yes... Terrapne ornata ornata
and ...are you KIDDING ME THAT POOR THING... was probably taken from his native habitat in TEXAS, NEW MEXICO, AND THE REST OF TORNADO ALLY.... sry but you have to find a way to get him back here.... poor thing, it cant take that cold weather. it and its subsprecies the desert box turtle are the most land bound and harmest weather of the boxes. Good Luck with him! And nothing against you but that doesn’t really say anything about how to take care of the turtle in question. You didn’t criticize them and you were being nice it just didn’t say anything about how to take care of the turtle That’s all. I wasn’t trying to offend anyone but I know that a lot of others have much more turtle experiance than I do so I was hoping someone would realize simply how things are. They have the turtle. End of discussion. They’re trying to take care of it. They want help. It’s not like they have it and shoved it into a ten gallon, They want it to be healthy. So be helpful and not criticize them. (That’s not directed at you Reptilefreak23 or anyone in particular really) Sorry if I offended anyone but I stand by what I said before about me having supplied the most useful information about the CARE of the animal, seeing as how I’m the only one who has done so. Can someone else please say something else about the CARE of the box turtle? And not yell at me or the people who saved the turtle? On a brighter note, how’s the turtle doing? |
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| 06/16/08 09:39am |
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Ballpythongirl View Profile |
Message To: Reptilefreak23 In reference to Message Id: 1762305 Help!!! Found in front yard. WOOOOW!!!!
and ill try too.copy and paste this...Box_Turtle_Care_Sheet_003G its a pretty good care sheet you might want to take a look at.it has all the information you need.but of course dont base the care of your turtle solely on this care sheet,look up your own information as well. |
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| 06/16/08 09:44am |
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Reptilefreak23 View Profile |
Message To: Ballpythongirl In reference to Message Id: 1762547 Help!!! Found in front yard. WOOOOW!!!!
"whats its scientific name" |
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| 06/16/08 10:57am |
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Reptilefreak23 View Profile |
Message To: Reptilefreak23 In reference to Message Id: 1762592 Help!!! Found in front yard. WOOOOW!!!!
Diet: Hatchling to juvinile ornate box turtles are highly carnivorous . preferred live foods including worms, snails (provide good calcium) slugs, beetles crickets, grasshoppers and grubs. Ornates as they get older even as adults are more carnivorous than other box turtles. But will start eating plants and fruits. Box turtles are omnivores and will enjoy fruits, fungi, veggies, greens, mollusks, worms and insects. From research with wild turtles, we know they eat plants for almost half the diet and animal foods for a little bit over half the diet. They are opportunistic feeders, willing to eat almost anything edible that they find. So focus on using a wide variety of foods. Feed the turtle on a flat rock rather than from dishes of any kind. This more natural approach will prevent the beak and toenails from becoming overgrown. Provide a high calcium source all the time--e.g. cuttlebone, boiled eggshells, plaster block--so that the turtle can munch when it feels the need for more calcium. If your turtle is reluctant to eat, try soaking and misting before feeding. Make sure the turtle is warm enough, and well lighted. Reluctant feeders can often be enticed with live food such as an earthworm or slug, or colorful foods such as strawberries or cantaloupe. Stinky foods, such as canned cat food, can be useful in getting a reluctant turtle eating. (However, cat food is not a good food for frequent use.) Sick turtles will usually not eat well, so if the turtle refuses to eat for more than two weeks, seek veterinary care. As an example of a good, healthy meal for a box turtle, try a salad of chopped grapes, dandelion, and grated carrot, and add a delightful topping of earthworm. This should convince your turtle that you are a good provider. A couple days later, try a mushroom and a strawberry on a turnip leaf, with a few sowbugs on top, lightly garnished with calcium powder. Mmm, mmm, good! Do not use the same food for two feedings in a row. And you really don’t need to feed a "balanced meal" each time. Using a wide variety of foods over time will balance the diet in a more natural way. Box turtles can get into unhealthy "addictions" if fed the same food frequently. Use a very wide variety of foods and don’t feed the same items two feeding in a row. Avoid overuse of live wiggly foods, as this is a common cause of picky eating habits. Additionally, make sure to provide cuttlebone or other source of calcium, so that the turtle can self-regulate calcium intake. Housing: For a substrate, use light peat-based potting compost mixed with damp sphagnum moss. This should be at least 3-4" (75-100 mm) deep. It is imperative that Ornate box turtles are not allowed to become dehydrated - so dry tanks with excessive heat are a major source of problems. Ensure that box turtle habitats are provided with plenty of shade, have a shallow ’soaking’ tray of fresh, clean water permanently available, and that temperatures are maintained from 80-85 ºF in one area to approximately 70 ºF in another. On no account over-heat or allow dehydration to occur. Spray the area regularly and ensure that the substrate retains adequate humidity at all times. Box turtles tend to do well either outdoors, or in a large indoor enclosure. Many people do keep them in tiny aquariums, but it is a rather sad existence, in my opinion. One type of indoor container that actually works quite well is a large Rubbermaid tub. Rubbermaid tubs and specially built wooden boxes have an advantage over glass aquariums because they have opaque sides. Some box turtles will obsessively try to get through the glass to get to the larger area that they can see on the other side. Others become frightened by any activity in the room and will not relax until the sides are covered.Flat rocks in one area will help keep the turtle’s toenails in good shape. (but clipping by vet is still recommended) If you live within the natural range of any of the American box turtles, you should seriously consider an outdoor setup with sun, shade, a variety of weeds, and a small pond of water that is deep enough for swimming. Turtles are happier and healthier under these conditions. Some type of protection is required to prevent raccoons, dogs, or other predators from entering the enclosure. Lighting: Require a 5.o UVB across top of cage and undertank heaters or heat lamps to keep proper temperature needs Other info: Ornate box turtles are among the most sensitive and difficult of North American species to maintain successfully. They inhabit a variety of environments, from grassy plains to damp forest floors. They make extensive use of burrows and microclimates. Glass aquarium tanks are categorically not appropriate for this species. They do best in carefully landscaped outdoor enclosures, or in large, indoor terraria with adequate substrate depth. Environmental problems usually manifest as swollen and infected eyes, ear abscesses and kidney diseases. As virtually all box turtles sold are wild-caught, parasitic diseases are also very common. Look out for Bot fly larvae infections, flagellate infestations and nematodes (intestinal ’worms’). All will require treatment from a specialist veterinarian. Ornate box turtles are highly carnivorous. Provide calcium-dusted crickets, mealworms, waxworms and earthworms on a regular basis. Pinkie mice are also very important. Over-ripe fruits and green-leaf salads are also essential. Warning, these turtles can hibernate well under good conditions so be ready Hope this helps! Good Luck with your boxy |
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| 06/16/08 11:22am |
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Shadowcat0789 View Profile |
Message To: Reptilefreak23 In reference to Message Id: 1762615 Help!!! Found in front yard. WOOOOW!!!!
Ballpythongirl, thank you for sticking up for me, it’s appreciated. I really wasn’t trying to start anything and wish the situation didn’t come up. Also, thank you Reptilefreak for the care sheet. I didn’t know that they were carnivorous or most of that stuff about the diet. Is that only with the Ornate or is it with all boxies? |
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| 06/16/08 11:36pm |
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Reptilefreak23 View Profile |
Message To: Shadowcat0789 In reference to Message Id: 1763475 Help!!! Found in front yard. WOOOOW!!!!
Sry if I offended you And to original Poster: GOOD LUCK WITH HIM im sure he’ll do well and thank you for saving him |
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| 06/16/08 11:54pm |
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Help!!! Found in front yard. WOOOOW!!!!