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Pamalam
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 Pinkies for a WDTP

Hey all... has anyone tried feeding a pinky mouse to their whites tree frog? I’m wondering if they are too large or not. My male is of a fairly substantial size and has no problem eating large crickets and worms.



06/08/08  08:55pm

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ILoveGreen
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  Message To: Pamalam   In reference to Message Id: 1755475


 Pinkies for a WDTP

I give my White’s a pinky treat a few times a year. You just want to give them as a treat...white’s can get at fast :)



06/08/08  09:20pm

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Hoppy
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  Message To: ILoveGreen   In reference to Message Id: 1755493


 Pinkies for a WDTP

Feeding pinkies is an optional choice not a necessity...

Many use pinkies to fatten females for hibernation before breeding.. Many whites will not take them. Here they sell them frozen so you must dethaw and then wiggle them and hand feed or tong feed...

Many are against giving them pinkies.... I prefer not to as I am not breeding them and don’t want to introduce new parasites into their system.. Mice have horrific parasite loads. Its also not something typically in their wild diet... They will eat anything of course as they are opportunists in the wild and a little more fussy at times in captivity..

Deer mice/field mice/house mice (pet):
Because of their feeding habits, they may be considered beneficial. Unfortunately, they are also strongly associated with the Hantavirus which causes Hantavirus Pulmonary Syndrome (HPS), and their chewing habits are the cause of structural damage in homes and other structures. It is estimated that 25% of fires which have unknown causes are caused by rodents chewing electrical wires. Chewing telephone and computer cables can do more than just cause structural damage. One mouse is capable of bringing down entire businesses. Their control, particularly indoors, is essential.

Are mice hazardous to humans?
Yes. Mice contaminate food with their droppings and urine. They spread such diseases as salmonella bacteria (food poisoning), lepospirae (jaundice) and typhus. As well, they carry parasites such as fleas, round worms and mites. Deer mice are known to transmit Hantavirus, a virus that affects the respiratory system of humans.
Mouse Pinkies

With pink, hairless skin, new born mice are Pinkies. But they are shorter than a man’s smallest fingers– his pinkies. When female house mice are only 10 weeks old, they can give birth to pinkies of their own.


Neat to know

* One mouse pinkie weighs no more than two mini-marshmallows.

* It takes mouse pinkies just 10 days to grow coats of white or gray-brown fur.

* Mouse pinkies can sense sounds that are too high-pitched for you to hear.


HOPPY



06/09/08  09:50am

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Jvmk
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  Message To: Hoppy   In reference to Message Id: 1755803


 Pinkies for a WDTP

Wow, I don’t know what you are quoting but mice are not that dangerous, maybe wild mice, but I don’t think th op was suggesting to go outside and hunt down wild pinkies. Pet and feeder mice don’t usually cause diseases and I’m certainly not getting typhus from my pet mice. I could be wrong but I think typhus is caused by a certain kind of flea on the mice/rats. Pet and feeder mice, from a reputable breeder/retailer, are not going to have parasites like that and its actually pretty rare to get diseases from pet mice. Who is going to let their pet/feeder mice walk around and poop all over their home and in their cupboards, or chew on their computer cords?

On the topic, I don’t really think its right to feed pinkies to an animal who doesn’t actually need them in their diet, why cause unnecessary suffering? Its not cool.



06/21/08  10:17pm

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Froggy&Gribbit
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  Message To: Jvmk   In reference to Message Id: 1769081


 Pinkies for a WDTP

Some do feed pinkies to WTF I think it is a bad idea. It is not a natural food source nor are worms...... Both are high in fat and are not healthy for the frogs.
I don’t recommend it.

Mice are terrible disease carrying creatures.............. Having said that I do not believe pet trade bred mice carry such diseases.
I do however believe they carry parasites as just about every creature does. You run the risk of what parasites these carry and whether or not they are dangerous to your frog when you choose to feed then mice.



06/21/08  10:23pm

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Hoppy
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  Message To: Froggy&Gribbit   In reference to Message Id: 1769086


 Pinkies for a WDTP


Actually all pet rodents carry some disease possibilities meaning it can be passed to humans... Containing it by clean habitat and proper diet are key... To other animals that eat them its risky but parasite loads are the main issue that become disease...

Pinkies of course would carry little as freezing would kill most cells but live pinkies they still have huge parasite loads that can pass to your frogs or other pet that eats them...Some disease in pinkies is there as they are born with it..
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This is from the ’National Center Of Infectious Diseases’

Lymphocytic Choriomeningitis Virus from Pet Rodents

Rodents, such as mice, hamsters and guinea pigs, are popular as pets in many households. However, not all rodents that enter homes are intended as pets: some rodents are brought into homes as feed for other animals (e.g., pet snakes), and others, such as the house mouse, are pests that find their own way into homes. This fact sheet is intended to provide information about lymphocytic choriomeningitis virus (LCMV), which can be transmitted to humans by rodents, including wild and pet mice, hamsters, and, on occasion, guinea pigs.

What is LCMV?
LCMV is carried by rodents and can be passed to humans. Not all people who are exposed to the virus become ill. Signs and symptoms of LCMV infection are similar to those for influenza and include fever, stiff neck, malaise, anorexia (lack of appetite), muscle aches, headache, nausea, and vomiting. Symptoms occur 1–2 weeks after exposure.

How is LCMV transmitted to humans?
The house mouse, a wild rodent found near and in homes, is the primary host of this virus. Humans can develop LCMV infection from exposure to rodent urine, droppings, saliva, or nesting material of infected rodents. Virus transmission can also occur when these materials are directly introduced into broken skin or into the nose, eyes, or mouth or by a bite from an infected animal. Pet rodents, such as hamsters and guinea pigs, can become infected with LCMV after being in contact with wild rodents at a breeding facility, pet store, or home. Human infections from pet rodents are rare.
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Keep in mind this is just one disease as I chose one that can be passed to humans....

HOPPY





06/22/08  10:41am


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