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 #1834440


Sid & Bran
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 HELP!!!! WTF NOT EATING.

If anyone could help it would be awesome because we’re worried about our little WTF, Aries. We got him about a week ago. He doesn’t seem to eat. We put crickets right in front of him and he just doesn’t seem to care that there’s food there. He mostly is inactive although i see him in various areas of the tank. When we got him he was a pretty light green color-almost transluscent. He’s darkend up a lot and he just doesn’t eat. If he does he eats like 1 baby cricket every few days. He’s getting skinny. I thought these frogs reallyl liked food. He acts like the crickets gag him or something. VERY WEIRD.

What time of day should we feed him?

Do they eat crickets?

Any suggestions on how to get him to eat???
08/17/08  10:55pm

 #1834445


Sid & Bran
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   Message To: Sid & Bran   In reference to Message Id: 1834440


 HELP!!!! WTF NOT EATING.

OH and here is our tank conditions

He’s shares his 10 gal tank with 2 baby Fire Bellied Toads. Half water, half smooth large pebbles. We have a water filter. The tank is kept very clean. Lots of faux foilage. Humidity is between 50-70. Day temps are about 80, night temps are 70 (we’re in AZ so its hard to get it much lower than 70)

I’d like him to eat daily since he’s just a baby but he’s not eating. Thanks for your posts!
08/17/08  10:58pm

 #1834452


Ammeratsu
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   Message To: Sid & Bran   In reference to Message Id: 1834445


 HELP!!!! WTF NOT EATING.

He should be in his own tank. A 20 gallon tall would be more suitable.

Also, fire belly toads can be toxic to him since it’s such a small area. It’s not safe for him to be with them in case he eats them. He’ll die.

He should be on coconut fiber in a 20 gallon(Actually, a ten gallon is fine until he gets bigger)
08/17/08  11:03pm

 #1834491


Sid & Bran
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   Message To: Ammeratsu   In reference to Message Id: 1834452


 HELP!!!! WTF NOT EATING.

thanks for the tid bits. will this make him eat? do they eat aggressively? our fire bellied toads are all over any morsel of food you stick in the tank. we separate them to feed them but the little WTF just doesn’t even seem interested in food :(



08/17/08  11:31pm

 #1834497


Ammeratsu
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   Message To: Sid & Bran   In reference to Message Id: 1834491


 HELP!!!! WTF NOT EATING.

Time with tell. He should definitely be removed from the fire bellied toads immediately, though. They could be poisoning him and that may be why he’s not eating.
08/17/08  11:36pm

 #1834501


Sid & Bran
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   Message To: Ammeratsu   In reference to Message Id: 1834497


 HELP!!!! WTF NOT EATING.

we just tried to feed him again. we isolated him from the other frogs for a good hour and a half (even before i posted my first post) the crickets were crawling on him even and he didn’t have any interest in eating them. :( i’m so sad. i want him to eat and be healthy.



08/17/08  11:40pm

 #1834505


Ammeratsu
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   Message To: Sid & Bran   In reference to Message Id: 1834501


 HELP!!!! WTF NOT EATING.

Then you must separate him. That’s the only way he’ll be healthy.

Separate him into a ten gallon and cover three sides with trash bags or black construction paper.
08/17/08  11:45pm

 #1834512


Sid & Bran
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   Message To: Ammeratsu   In reference to Message Id: 1834505


 HELP!!!! WTF NOT EATING.

we’re going to put him in our extra tank lined with papertowels (just for now until he gets healthy) lined with the black like you suggested with a water dish. Is it best to keep the foilage to a minimum in his tank for now? should we keep him in the dark during the day too until he gets better? he crawls around a lot still.



08/17/08  11:51pm

 #1834514


Jboogy23
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   Message To: Sid & Bran   In reference to Message Id: 1834501


 HELP!!!! WTF NOT EATING.

put him in a quarintine tank, darkin the sides papertowel on the bottom. give him some branches and some big leaves to hide in. keep the temp normal and try the humidity normal as well first. i think he is stress from your tank with the toads. i never have a problem with multi specis if you have a huge tank but 10 gallon is way to small for all those guys. he needs his own tank.

if able go out and buy a tank for himself, get some nice branches and leaves for him. get some eco earth and keep it damp. make sure the humidity and the temp are normal. get him a good sized shallow water bowl to soak in. do all these things and he should be fine.

tree frogs are noctournal so the need the lights off at night but im sure you knew that, if you want to view him at night get a low watt red light. they cant see it but you get to watch him in all his glory. :)
08/17/08  11:52pm

 #1834516


Sid & Bran
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   Message To: Jboogy23   In reference to Message Id: 1834514


 HELP!!!! WTF NOT EATING.

can i ask why the papertowels? can i line it with the pebbles we havn’t used yet?
08/17/08  11:55pm

 #1834517


Sid & Bran
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   Message To: Sid & Bran   In reference to Message Id: 1834516


 HELP!!!! WTF NOT EATING.

& what time of day should we feed the lil guy? during the day or at night since he’s nocturnal?



08/17/08  11:56pm

 #1834518


Ammeratsu
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   Message To: Jboogy23   In reference to Message Id: 1834514


 HELP!!!! WTF NOT EATING.

It’s a better idea to keep the temps 85 and humidity 40-50 while he’s sick. The less damp conditions lowers the change of a bacterial infection. Damp conditions are breeding grounds for bacteria.
08/17/08  11:56pm

 #1834520


Ammeratsu
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   Message To: Ammeratsu   In reference to Message Id: 1834518


 HELP!!!! WTF NOT EATING.

Pebbles are not good for tree frogs.

Paper towels are so you can see if his stool(poop) is normal and to keep it sterile. The only substrate you should really use is coconut fiber. It’s digestible and gentle on their sensitive skin.
08/17/08  11:58pm

 #1834535


Sid & Bran
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   Message To: Ammeratsu   In reference to Message Id: 1834520


 HELP!!!! WTF NOT EATING.

thanks for the help guys. super appreciate it!
08/18/08  12:24am

 #1834683


Jboogy23
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   Message To: Sid & Bran   In reference to Message Id: 1834535


 HELP!!!! WTF NOT EATING.

the reason i said to put him in a separate tank and keep the temps and humidity the same is i don’t think that he is sick, i think he is stressed out. if you put him in the right conditions i think he will come around nicely.

yea you do not want pebbles, one he wont like to walk on them and 2 if he eats one of those he is in big trouble. i feed mine at night when they are most active. since he is stress don’t put a bunch in there, maybe one or two and watch to see what he does.

i think just get the tank set up how it should be and give him time and he will come around. if you try and keep him in the set up yo have now he will not make it.

hope this helps.
08/18/08  08:54am

 #1834825


Amphibiandude
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   Message To: Jboogy23   In reference to Message Id: 1834683


 HELP!!!! WTF NOT EATING.

ahhhh no no no get him out of that tank he will die i know it has been said but ut us so important get him in his own tank



08/18/08  12:01pm

 #1835733


Rainforest
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   Message To: Amphibiandude   In reference to Message Id: 1834825


 HELP!!!! WTF NOT EATING.

Just pointing out that the humidity should be low anyways because if he’s stressed, he’s more vulnerable to bacterial infections. x3
08/18/08  11:37pm

 #1835887


Hoppy
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   Message To: Rainforest   In reference to Message Id: 1835733


 HELP!!!! WTF NOT EATING.


Sorry rushing this morning so if repeat forgive me...

He must be put in a sick tank for now with high temps of 85f 24/7 Sides darkened to help reduce stress.
Try to do things routine like water changes ect..

Paper towel substrate and clean easy plant and cave ...very little deco..

Many do not eat the first week due to stress from transport...

Humidity for now keep at 50% to 60% until decided if only stress...if more symptoms show like watery stools etc then humidity must be dropped to the 30 to 40 range....

He is kept in the sick tank for at least 30 days until well...... After a new tank for him alone is needed..
Toads are toxic and most species cannot be mixed for many reasons....

Ok..must run...will check in later...good luck.

HOPPY
08/19/08  07:23am


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