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 #1751147


Mikeornata
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  Should I release my RES’ to the wild?


Here is the question of the century.
I am always the first to harp on someone for releasing RES in the wild. Despite some of my earlier comments I would never euthanize an animal. However, chew on this. I live in Idaho where the last native turtle species died out 14,000 years ago. The only wild turtles you find are few pockets of RES in certain lakes and reservoirs that were themselves released or the progeny of released animals that are actually thriving. There are no native species to threaten as far as turtles go. I am quite certain, given the hardiness of the species and the examples of captives surviving in the wild, that mine, having lived in outdoor ponds eating fish and what not, will have a great chance of survival. Let me know your opinions. I am moving 2000 miles away and I am not willing to transport them. I could give them to a local petshop, but I dont want them to end up in a ten gallon tank! I think this is my best option.



05/30/08  03:30pm

 #1751182


Reptilefreak23
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   Message To: Mikeornata   In reference to Message Id: 1751147


  Should I release my RES’ to the wild?

red ear sliders.. do do better than other captive turtles that have been released.
I have found some of my marked red ear turtles a year later. doin fine.
They know to hunt for crickets and chew on plants instinctivly.. they are probably the most hardy species.

Good Luck with your dicision
05/30/08  03:59pm

 #1751220


Gottee guy
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   Message To: Reptilefreak23   In reference to Message Id: 1751182


  Should I release my RES’ to the wild?

i would say go ahead but what about winter months? i don’t think they really know how to survive the cold and know how to hibernate since they originate from mexico.
05/30/08  04:37pm

 #1751225


Reptilefreak23
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   Message To: Gottee guy   In reference to Message Id: 1751220


  Should I release my RES’ to the wild?

actually down here in texas.. we see less and less red ears and more and more rio grand red ears.
If you look now.. red ears have adapted to live all over america
05/30/08  04:44pm

 #1751516


PcBuilder14
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   Message To: Reptilefreak23   In reference to Message Id: 1751225


  Should I release my RES’ to the wild?

ive never seen a rio grand where i live and i live in texas ive only seen alligator snapper, yellow-belly slider, and red eared slider.



05/30/08  09:05pm

 #1751534


Reptilefreak23
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   Message To: PcBuilder14   In reference to Message Id: 1751516


  Should I release my RES’ to the wild?

I bet your mistaking the red ears for the ri grand red ears... not that different, More exitingly colored
05/30/08  09:14pm

 #1751569


PcBuilder14
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   Message To: Reptilefreak23   In reference to Message Id: 1751534


  Should I release my RES’ to the wild?

no ive seen a pet store with one but it was the owners and wasnt for sale the shell color and skin patterns a little differen. Also i live as far northeast as possible in texas.



05/30/08  09:30pm

 #1752238


Turtlemom
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   Message To: PcBuilder14   In reference to Message Id: 1751569


  Should I release my RES’ to the wild?

I KNEW IT!!!!!!!!!!! I KNEW MIKEORNATA HAS A HEART!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just kidding man ;)
But seriously, don’t you leave them out over the winter? So hibernation wouldn’t even be an issue, right? I’d release them. They’ve got a lot better chance in the wild (not to mention quality of life) than in a too small tank in somebodies bedroom.
05/31/08  04:39pm

 #1753926


RHS coyote
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   Message To: Turtlemom   In reference to Message Id: 1752238


  Should I release my RES’ to the wild?

PCbuilder14 here is a pic of a rio grande slider



06/06/08  10:27pm

 #1753929


TurtleBites
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   Message To: RHS coyote   In reference to Message Id: 1753926


  Should I release my RES’ to the wild?

that’s a beautiful rio. i have a few small babies. wondered what they looked like a bit older.
06/06/08  10:30pm

 #1753944


RHS coyote
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   Message To: TurtleBites   In reference to Message Id: 1753929


  Should I release my RES’ to the wild?

thank you! i know he’s awesome I have 10 of them



06/06/08  10:43pm

 #1754608


Gottee guy
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   Message To: RHS coyote   In reference to Message Id: 1753944


  Should I release my RES’ to the wild?

oh i have always been wondering what kind of turtle mine was. i thought it was a RES with discolored "ears" but i guess it’s a rio.
06/07/08  08:51pm

 #1754704


Reptilefreak23
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   Message To: Gottee guy   In reference to Message Id: 1754608


  Should I release my RES’ to the wild?

yeah I got a bunch too
06/07/08  10:23pm

 #1755104


PcBuilder14
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   Message To: Reptilefreak23   In reference to Message Id: 1754704


  Should I release my RES’ to the wild?

I have never seen a Rio Grande Slider in the wild where I live, but I live about as far as you can from te Rio Grande in Texas I live in Northeast Texas. I’ve only seen one in a petstore.



06/08/08  12:32pm

 #1760662


Turtle addict
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   Message To: Mikeornata   In reference to Message Id: 1751147


  Should I release my RES’ to the wild?

Are you kidding me??? Back to the original post....there are native turtles in EVERY state. Idaho has NATIVE turtles.


Releasing any animal that has consistantly had food dropped in a small area would NEVER know how to hunt and find it’s own food. Nor would the CAPTIVE animal know what predators are and what to do with them....even IF it was left in a outside pond for it’s entire life...that is STILL a controlled environment.


Releasing a captive pet turtle into the wild NO MATTER what the circumstances is a death sentence and shows you don’t care about the environment or the animal.




06/14/08  12:01pm

 #1760710


TurtleBites
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   Message To: Turtle addict   In reference to Message Id: 1760662


  Should I release my RES’ to the wild?

i agree with addict on this one.

i was kinda shocked when i seen how many people said it would be the best thing for the turtles. especially when most of you are the once to jump on people that think its OK.

Kinda like taking things from the wild. i dunno. im not trying to start an argument.
06/14/08  01:14pm

 #1760714


Gottee guy
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   Message To: TurtleBites   In reference to Message Id: 1760710


  Should I not release my RES’ to the wild?

i’m kind of neutral. if it doesn’t have any other species to compete with then i don’t see what could be so wrong.i wouldn’t like the idea of mine being in the wild because it could freeze in winter,or be mutilated by a predator or not find enough food or not be able to fight diseases and parasites. so i’m leaning on the "no you shouldn’t" side. but i’m still neutral. if there is already a population of them in a lake with few predators,lots of food, and the temp stays mild in winter and there is a little chance of getting parasiyes,diseases,etc then go ahead.but that would be like turtle paradise and i haven’t seen many of those places anywhere.
06/14/08  01:23pm

 #1760724


Reptilefreak23
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   Message To: Gottee guy   In reference to Message Id: 1760714


  Should I not release my RES’ to the wild?

WOW is that coming from TURTLEBITES???????????????
just yesterday you said "let them die there in invasive species" "There just red ears"
06/14/08  01:36pm

 #1760727


Reptilefreak23
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   Message To: Reptilefreak23   In reference to Message Id: 1760724


  Should I not release my RES’ to the wild?

and "dont breed, them there are so many already there over populating species"
06/14/08  01:39pm

 #1760732


Gottee guy
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   Message To: Reptilefreak23   In reference to Message Id: 1760727


  Should I not release my RES’ to the wild?

she probably means that they will find some way to breed in that state and more will mulitply.for any RES- better to keep it than to let it go and multiply.
06/14/08  01:44pm

 #1760770


TurtleBites
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   Message To: Gottee guy   In reference to Message Id: 1760732


  Should I not release my RES’ to the wild?

what does this have to do with my other post? nothing.

iv never said it was alright to let your pets go into the wild.

i still do not think the eggs should me hatched. why when there are so many??? whats wrong with my statement and what does it have to do with people not being able to care for their pets, then dumping them off into some random lake or pond?? its irresponsible and not fair to the turtle.
06/14/08  02:42pm

 #1760785


Gottee guy
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   Message To: TurtleBites   In reference to Message Id: 1760770


  Should I not release my RES’ to the wild?

i’ve never bred any turtle. and RES would probably be the easiest to breed.i said i’d feed the hatchlings to my water snakes while their shells are soft. i just want to be sure that i am incubating them right and in the right substrate so that i will know if i’m doing it right,for the sake of other reptiles’ eggs that i will soon be incubating, too.
06/14/08  02:52pm

 #1760831


Reptilefreak23
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   Message To: Gottee guy   In reference to Message Id: 1760785


  Should I not release my RES’ to the wild?

I am sry TurtleBites I never meant to start an arguement... I was just compairing your two posts
sry again
reptilefreak23
06/14/08  03:41pm

 #1761033


TurtleBites
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   Message To: Reptilefreak23   In reference to Message Id: 1760831


  Should I not release my RES’ to the wild?

no problem. but still my two post have nothing to do with each other.
06/14/08  07:27pm

 #1761997


Turtle addict
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   Message To: TurtleBites   In reference to Message Id: 1761033


  Should I not release my RES’ to the wild?

I also want to add that when a turtle is born in a certain area they have certain immunities from the parents and YEARS of dealing with certain disease and parasites. We have this issue BIG time here in Florida...take the gopher tortoise, grab one from one area and move it 1 mile down the road and you kill the entire population of gopher tortoises there.

Throwing a "disease" free turtle from your home could not only kill the turtles in the area it could then allow the plant they feed on to overgrow killing another specie of plant that a certain fish eats, killing the fish and the waste from that fish is the only thing the worms in the water eat killing them, then the bird who eats only those worms dies also. You could in a sense disrupt the entire elcology of the area by putting one turtle into it.


Leave wild turtles wild and captive turtles captive...it’s the only humane thing to do. If you no longer want your pet offer it somewhere like freecycle.org... or the local newspaper they have them EVERYWHERe and someone would love to give the animal a loving home.
06/15/08  07:14pm

 #1762977


PcBuilder14
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   Message To: Turtle addict   In reference to Message Id: 1761997


  Should I not release my RES’ to the wild?

No offense to anybody else but, Mikeornata I’d do whatever you want, because it’s your turtle and you can do what you want with it. I’m not saying it’s right to let captive turtles into the wild, but I’m not saying it’s wrong either. Also it really depends on where you live.



06/16/08  05:35pm

 #1765456


Mikeornata
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   Message To: Turtle addict   In reference to Message Id: 1760662


  Should I release my RES’ to the wild?

Turtle addict. You are only partially right. There is only one native species of turtle in Idaho. The Western Painted Turtle. Thy only occur in the panhandle (northern Idaho) I live(ed) in southeast Idaho where the only living turtle species are introduced Trachemys Scripta Elegans (RES). Please read the link i provided. That way you can say you actually researched something before you started talking out of your a s s. Thanks for playing.
We have some nice parting gifts for you!!!!

Mike D.


Idaho Turtles



06/18/08  07:24pm


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