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 #1653545


Shiz
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 Vet Visit

Ok so Thrusday I took my three reptiles to the vet and here was the outcome

1. Leezard- Water dragon. This was leezies third time to the vet, just for general checkup hence fecal, He has worms again. He had worms last year too and was given panacure to be administered for 5 days. well now he was diagnosed with I forgot with what worms, but he was given Flagyl. The vet gave him double dose at his office and then the vet gave me another dose in a syringe, which I will have to give on the 20th of this month. He also sent for the poo to get cultured to see if there are any other bacteria.

2. Sadie my Beardie was found with 2 types of worms. One which is Coccidea which is rare in reptiles. He has rarely seen it in reptiles because it is common in CATS and DOgs.. I was so upset becaue when I bought her, I was told she came from a very good breader, but then again what could I expect from a pet shop, right. Well I cannot recall the name of the other worm she had. But he said that coccidea must have been the result of a very dirty breeder who breeds in poor poor conditions, my poor baby. Well she was perscribed Flagyl which he gave he double dose in the office and another which I have to give in the 20th of this month also, And she was also given Albon which I have to administer everyday for 5 days. Her poop was also sent to the lab to get cultured.

3. Tubby my Egyptian Uromastyx. Vet said he looked bloated and could be a bad sign. He said he thought his belly was full of liquid which can be fatal. But he poked him with a needle to draw liquid out and NOthing!!! Just nothing. no liquid...Yay!!! I hel my breath during this because if liquid came out, I would have bursted in tears. Well tubby must have know I needed his poo because out of everyday that he does poop, he chose this day not to poop at all. But vet said I could bring poop any time next week. I told the vet he poops daily and eats fine, so then he told me he just may be pleasanly plump, lol...

Thats about it. I know people here have medicated with flagly. They are all acting normal, any advice, is this flagyl or albon harsh on their tummies, should I give them anything additional. I hate these parasites. I guess they dont go away forever :(

My beardie hid all day today. I dont know why, I guess she just wasnt in the mood :/

oh yeah...$233.00 :?
03/09/08  12:02am

 #1653571


MikeNIke
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   Message To: Shiz   In reference to Message Id: 1653545


 Vet Visit

How will you give them the medicine? My Uros are so freaking stubborn they won’t open their mouths! And the vet couldnt separate the lips (with a plastic spatula thing) because the Uros have extremely powerful jaws!
03/09/08  12:25am

 #1653590


Shiz
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   Message To: MikeNIke   In reference to Message Id: 1653571


 Vet Visit

oh boy..I dunno, since he didnt poop that day, he just couldnt give him any medicine, I guess I will have to see when I take him back for his first dose :?

It was easier for the other two because the vet just pulled on their throat skin and they opened up, also the nmedicine tastes like bananas so they lickedx it right up, as far as the Uro I have no idea
03/09/08  01:00am

 #1653783


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   Message To: Shiz   In reference to Message Id: 1653545


 Vet Visit

Coccidia is not a worm. Coccidia belongs to the protozoa group of parasites and unfortunately, is not all that uncommon in reptiles. In fact, I would categorize it as rather common in bearded dragons. Many bearded dragons harbor this parasite in low numbers without issue (some completely asymptomatic) but it appears much more problematic in uromastyx so I would caution you on using very good quarantine practices including thorough hand washings after handling each animal.

The fact that your vet has labeled this parasite (coccidia) as rare, hasn’t seen it before in reptiles, and is doing an invasive procedure like a needle aspiration on a reptile that is known to ‘inflate’ itself during times of stress, I would suggest looking around for a vet with a little more reptile experience.

Did your vet talk to you about steps you would need to take to eradicate this parasite (coccidia) including complete substrate changes, discarding porous items (such as wood), what to use to disinfect the enclosure……?

I hope that I am reading your post incorrectly in that your vet gave a ‘double’ dose of flagyl. Flagyl is not as forgiving from a toxicity standpoint as other medications and it is not a drug I would recommend doubling the dose on as it could result in severe health consequences including death. I see no valid reason for your vet to double the dose of this medication and the action is very concerning. I understand the use of Albon for the coccidia, was your vet suggesting that the bearded dragon had other protozoa issues and was using flagyl to treat this or that he/she was using this for intestinal inflammation? Whatever the condition, I would highly recommend against doubling the recommended dose of this medication.



03/09/08  10:20am

 #1653973


Twentytwo
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   Message To: Uro_fan   In reference to Message Id: 1653783


 Vet Visit

your vet sounds like an idiot. coccidia is very common with beardies. And your uro looks fine to me.call this place and ask for a referral to someone better if it is too far.Marathon Veterinary Hospital in Marathon, FL. Doug Mader is the co-owner of the Hospital and author of Reptile Medicine and Surgery, it is probably one of the best places anywhere.



03/09/08  01:26pm

 #1654435


Twentytwo
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   Message To: Twentytwo   In reference to Message Id: 1653973


 Vet Visit

one of my uros is being treated for coccidia for the past week and until saturday (w/trimethsulfa)and the best way to disinfect for coccidia is with 5-10% ammonia/water mixture. I used 10% to be more safe but you have to make sure to rinse it with plain water very thoroughly to get rid of the fumes. also wash your hands after touching the dog. they can carry it for life even if not sick. it even gets in their fur.



03/09/08  07:21pm

 #1654787


Shiz
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   Message To: Twentytwo   In reference to Message Id: 1654435


 Vet Visit

Thank you everyone for your helpful advise. Ys I have been washing my hands so much that they are very dry, but I care more about my babies than hands. I will be cleaning their tanks thoroughly. The water dragon and bearie are the only one;s that have been medicated. I am giving my beardie albon everyday, .1 unit and d ont have to repeat the flagyl until the 20th. I think Marathon is far but will definitely call them up..Thanks so much. As per right now, since we are building enclosures, I have the beardiw on carpet, is waching it sufficient to be clean, or should I just dumo, other wise there is no wood, all of her accesories are plastic.

I appreciate your help guys :)
03/09/08  10:21pm

 #1655186


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   Message To: Shiz   In reference to Message Id: 1654787


 Vet Visit

bump
03/10/08  09:46am

 #1655227


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   Message To: Shiz   In reference to Message Id: 1654787


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What ever you are using as a substrate needs to be completely removed . Then entire cage needs to be cleaned with diluted bleach water including any plastic accessories , food bowl etc . Then rinsed every thing in hot water very well . Using layers paper towels as a substrate until they are complete over this is probably the safest and easiest method . I would not be using reptile carpet since you can not disinfect it properly . I would throw it away then buy new later on .
03/10/08  10:44am

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   Message To: Skullkeeper   In reference to Message Id: 1655227


 Vet Visit

Maybe this is just the vet that I visited, but I think $230 for three reptiles is a pretty good price. Of course, if they aren’t very educated, it means nothing. For my russian tortoise, I paid approximately $100 for just the check-up and almost $200 for a weekly dose of injections that only contained normal antibiotics and fluid. Not that it did very much considering the poor thing was already on a downward spiral because of its terrible respiratory infection.



04/28/08  04:54pm


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