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 Celery and alfalfa

can Uro’s have celery LEAVES and alfalfa sprouts???








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what is this???;



10/23/09  05:40pm

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  Message To: Boabab95   In reference to Message Id: 2087986


 Celery and alfalfa

That’s an iguana head. Can’t really answer the others, I just stick with the staple foods.



10/24/09  12:03am

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  Message To: Boabab95   In reference to Message Id: 2087986


 Celery and alfalfa

Well, for alfalfa sprouts, yes, they can be used as a topping or rotational veggies. I wouldn’t use it as a a staple because alfalfa sprouts aren’t that rich in nutrients, the mature plant which one can grow in the garden, has a lot more nutrients. Alfalfa sprouts are easy to grow in a bottle by the window though, so if your uro will eat them you could sprinkle some into his meal for variety.



10/24/09  11:03am

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  Message To: Sugar Snap Pea   In reference to Message Id: 2088161


 Celery and alfalfa

thanks, just tried the sprouts, SHE LOVES THEM!!!!! im actually surprised.


sugar- this might be a dumb question but how exactly would i go about growing them??? do i put them in like a green house until their too tall?





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how is that look like an iguana head???



10/24/09  01:23pm

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  Message To: Boabab95   In reference to Message Id: 2088218


 Celery and alfalfa

Yay, for a nice surprise!

Okay, if you want to grow them, in the US alfalfa seems to prefer warmer temps, so greenhouse would be good.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfalfa

I don’t think they will ever grow too tall, it’s not a grass at all, it will grow up to one foot tall thereabouts, but if you crop it often, it will stay short and expand more sideways in the pot with more leaves and flowers.



10/24/09  04:54pm

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  Message To: Sugar Snap Pea   In reference to Message Id: 2088274


 Celery and alfalfa

that will be a little hard to do in the middle of winter in canada... well soon to be winter.



10/24/09  07:49pm

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  Message To: Boabab95   In reference to Message Id: 2088313


 Celery and alfalfa

okay now for celery leaves, here are the nutritional facts for the stalks so i would think the leaves are pretty much the same;


Nutritional value per 100 g (3.5 oz)
Energy 10 kcal 60 kJ
Carbohydrates 3 g
- Sugars 2 g
- Dietary fibre 1.6 g
Fat 0.2 g
Protein 0.7 g
Water 95 g
Vitamin C 3 mg 5%

the reason why i put this is because there MIGHT be someone out there who would know the acceptable levels of nutrition for uros... plz reply if you know for a fact that celery leaves are safe.



10/24/09  08:06pm

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  Message To: Boabab95   In reference to Message Id: 2088313


 Celery and alfalfa

Funny thing about alfalfa is that it likes cool weather (spring/autumn) once it gets past the sprouting stage. But if your winter is harsh, best to leave planting till spring... unless you intend to start up a mini greenhouse in a corner of your home, it’s like keeping a uro with UV bulbs. :)

Here’s some info about lighting for plants indoors.
http://www.littlegreenhouse.com/guide3.shtml

Personally, I haven’t bothered with celery leaves, my uro has a sweet tooth, and the leaves are bitter.

Celery is an aromatic afterall, once it’s cooked it tastes better, but even then, the leaves are seldom used in cooking. Stem and leaves are great for soups but raw/uncooked, it’s a negative calorie veggie, meaning, one expands more calories eating it than getting calories from it. It’s a crunchy form of lettuce if you asked me... and could be a somewhat healthy snack for a uro that’s overweight or obese.



10/25/09  01:29pm

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  Message To: Sugar Snap Pea   In reference to Message Id: 2088477


 Celery and alfalfa

Unless something has a toxxic or pharmacological component that is essentially unhealthy for the animal. IE Spinach and Broccoli have oxalates which bind calcium. Then I’m not sure it matters what greens are fed as long as there is enough variety to provide a balanced diet for the animal. Some are obviouly staples and others might only be treats but this would make less difference if you are using something as a base such as Spring Mix and rotated everything else.



10/26/09  01:50am

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  Message To: Mbwrink   In reference to Message Id: 2088677


 Celery and alfalfa

With oxalate, it’s still an on-going story with human consumption. Used to be in the 70s and 80s you’ll find mature spinach sold in supermarkets, nowadays all you’ll find are young plants or baby spinach leaves. People have been eating a lot more raw spinach than they should be, and some doctors will actually recommend cooking spinach first instead of eating them raw.

Quote:

What does 50 milligrams of oxalate look like in terms of food? One cup of raw spinach in leaf form (not chopped) weighs about one ounce, and contains about 200 milligrams of oxalate, so 50 milligrams for the day would permit a person to consume only 1/4 cup of raw spinach (and no other oxalate sources could be eaten during the day).



http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=george&dbid=48

There are some handy lists built up from years of experience by herbivorous lizard owners to sort out what’s good as staple, and what’s good in rotation or as occasional. There’s at least three websites I use to double check before I introduce a new veggie. It’s still an on-going process, there isn’t a list out there that’s perfect yet. But a lot of it make sense.



10/26/09  10:21am


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