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Rattlersnake View Profile |
Basicly done
so here it is so this is the full thing 1 corner of it with lighting just reg bulb this is the lighting wired and every thing and inseated of like pressinf to buttons on the lights we put 1 single switch to turn them all on and im not sure why but my friend wanted me to put this pic of him almost hugging the tank on here ( he has a mali i went with him to get it from pet supples plus its a boy and he doesnt like to eat a whole lot but boy is he fat) there he is all hyper ( casual for him) ill post pics once they are in the tank and all that so ill mssg you guys tomorrow if you guys have any questing just ask |
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| 01/03/10 08:45pm |
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Rattlersnake View Profile |
Message To: Rattlersnake In reference to Message Id: 2110499 Basicly done
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| 01/03/10 08:49pm |
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Jbreddawg View Profile |
Message To: Rattlersnake In reference to Message Id: 2110501 Basicly done
You dont plan on putting all three in there do you ? |
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| 01/03/10 09:05pm |
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Rattler989 View Profile |
Message To: Jbreddawg In reference to Message Id: 2110503 Basicly done
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| 01/04/10 02:50pm |
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Jbreddawg View Profile |
Message To: Rattler989 In reference to Message Id: 2110663 Basicly done
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| 01/04/10 02:55pm |
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UROKEEPER View Profile |
Message To: Rattler989 In reference to Message Id: 2110663 Basicly done
Quote: oh and they wont lick the wall or eat it right? cause some of the sealer ate through a very thin coat of grout in the hides and ate into the faom another reason why we are letting it air out
if your sealer is eating through the grout and into the foam you have a problem. it’s most likely a toxic sealer especially at elevated temps. I agree with Jbreds posts as well. did you even research materials or did you just grab anything? |
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| 01/04/10 04:48pm |
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Jbreddawg View Profile |
Message To: Rattlersnake In reference to Message Id: 2110501 Basicly done
Quote: oh and they wont lick the wall or eat it right?
Yes, of course they will. They lick everything and will try to eat stuff also . |
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| 01/04/10 05:36pm |
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Rattler989 View Profile |
Message To: Jbreddawg In reference to Message Id: 2110713 Basicly done
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| 01/05/10 04:55pm |
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UROKEEPER View Profile |
Message To: Rattler989 In reference to Message Id: 2110997 Basicly done
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| 01/05/10 05:14pm |
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Jbreddawg View Profile |
Message To: Rattler989 In reference to Message Id: 2110997 Basicly done
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| 01/05/10 06:30pm |
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Rattler989 View Profile |
Message To: Jbreddawg In reference to Message Id: 2111031 Basicly done
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| 01/05/10 07:20pm |
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UROKEEPER View Profile |
Message To: Rattler989 In reference to Message Id: 2111050 Basicly done
Quote: um we used grout sealer we ran out of thaat so we used some other sealer, we used grout, um some pink panther foam i think its called we used some lights like the ones up top. we used some stain on the out side the tank.
OH MY |
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| 01/05/10 07:52pm |
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Jbreddawg View Profile |
Message To: UROKEEPER In reference to Message Id: 2111067 Basicly done
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| 01/05/10 08:09pm |
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URO LOVER View Profile |
Message To: Jbreddawg In reference to Message Id: 2111072 Basicly done
u need a massive size cage for 3 |
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| 01/05/10 09:49pm |
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Rattler989 View Profile |
Message To: URO LOVER In reference to Message Id: 2111108 Basicly done
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| 01/06/10 02:31pm |
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Rattler989 View Profile |
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| 01/06/10 02:42pm |
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Rose of Jericho View Profile |
Message To: Rattler989 In reference to Message Id: 2111281 Basicly done
Quote: why can you put paint on it and not sealer?
Depends on the paint. Depends on the sealant. Without more details it’s impossible to say. Some are okay, some aren’t. How do they react to heat? To UV? To scratching? Do they emit fumes? How well do they cure? Etc. It’s impossible to generalise since some paints or sealants may behave differently to others. |
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| 01/06/10 04:10pm |
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Rattler989 View Profile |
Message To: Rose of Jericho In reference to Message Id: 2111298 Basicly done
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| 01/07/10 02:38pm |
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Rose of Jericho View Profile |
Message To: Rattler989 In reference to Message Id: 2111586 Basicly done
Quote: it emits some fumes but a lot of them do i dont see why that would be a big problem.
You have a big room. It emits fumes, your room smells horrible. Now imagine you’re a lizard, in really quite a small room. You have to breathe those fumes the whole time. That’s usually unhealthy and is often referred to as Cruelty To Animals. Quote: i think it should be ok to heat and stuff
Sometimes the heat can cause it to emit fumes for quite a long time. See above. Quote: i remember the sealer was like multi purpose
"Multi-purpose" usually refers to around the house and garden - why do you think there are so many special versions of "normal" products designed specially for animals? Your lizard is not a desk, or a chair, or a toy. It is a living animal and needs good conditions to live in. You cannot simply pick any old stuff and slap it on, without researching first. If you want to own a pet which has very specific living requirements, you have to accept the responsibilty of making sure those requirements are met. A lizard of this type is not a good pet for anybody who is lazy or irresponsible. I’m not necessarily saying that you are either of those, but if you ignore this message and go ahead and use "something" in the lizard’s living space, then you certainly are. Quote: i think
This is the problem - you don’t have any solid facts. You need to be sure of what you’re putting into the enclosure, and you need to be sure that it is safe for lizards, in high-temperature environments. This is why you cannot use MDF, or pine/cedar/any soft wood, for example - they emit toxic (to lizards, not to humans) fumes when exposed to high temperatures. I am not trying to attack you, if you are genuinely interested in learning; I simply want to ensure that your lizard is in a suitably safe and healthy environment. |
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| 01/07/10 03:06pm |
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UROKEEPER View Profile |
Message To: Rose of Jericho In reference to Message Id: 2111594 Basicly done
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| 01/07/10 04:24pm |
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UROKEEPER View Profile |
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| 01/07/10 04:36pm |
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Rtl402 View Profile |
Message To: Rattlersnake In reference to Message Id: 2110499 Basicly done
Also, you need to use a non-scented sealer, preferrably one that is designed with withstand high heat. These selaers are usually a bit more pricy then the cheap $5 cans of wood sealer. There was one that an experienced/reputable Uro owner told me about, but forget the name offhand. I can check it and get back to you on it later, but I believe the price was $16-$20/quart. |
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| 01/07/10 07:13pm |
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Jbreddawg View Profile |
Message To: Rtl402 In reference to Message Id: 2111669 Basicly done
Nothing more any of us say is going to change all that. He’s NOT going to build a new cage and he IS going to jam all three uro’s in there. I’m done. He sure can post pics though . |
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| 01/07/10 07:19pm |
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UROKEEPER View Profile |
Message To: Rtl402 In reference to Message Id: 2111669 Basicly done
Link |
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| 01/07/10 10:31pm |
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UROKEEPER View Profile |
Message To: Rtl402 In reference to Message Id: 2111669 Basicly done
Quote: preferrably one that is designed with withstand high heat.
"Stability: Stable, however avoid temperatures above 177°C/350°F, the onset of polymer decomposition." |
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| 01/07/10 10:42pm |
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Datsunissan28 View Profile |
Message To: Rtl402 In reference to Message Id: 2111669 Basicly done
Quote: rtl402
If you are unsure, chances are they are not safe to be used for Uro’s due to the extreme heat requirements. Most plywoods are glued together using a formaldehyde glue which emits very hazardous fumes at temperatures above 100F not only to your Uro, but to yourself as well. I’m curious as to where everyone always gets this information from. Plywood in typical house construction sees these temps and much higher in most of the United States. Plywood used as roof sheathing sees ambient air temperatures in attics as high as any Uro enclosure and surface temperatures of composite shingles against the plywood most definitely have higher temperatures than basking temps. From my understanding the release of formaldehyde from wood products is from the introduction of water breaking down the glue and when it dries or the water is removed the formaldehyde is released (hydrolysis) |
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| 01/08/10 11:51am |
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Jbreddawg View Profile |
Message To: Datsunissan28 In reference to Message Id: 2111849 Basicly done
Quote: Plywood in typical house construction sees these temps and much higher in most of the United States. Plywood used as roof sheathing sees ambient air temperatures in attics as high as any Uro enclosure and surface temperatures of composite shingles against the plywood most definitely have higher temperatures than basking temps.
All very true. And any offgassing is released into the atmosphere or the attic where it will dissipate. Now imagine being in an extremely tiny enclosed box with nowhere to escape and have the same offgassing taking place right in the very area your trying to live in ? |
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| 01/08/10 11:57am |
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Rtl402 View Profile |
Message To: Jbreddawg In reference to Message Id: 2111852 Basicly done
JBred; BINGO. The outgassing of plywood in homes is also minimal due to roofs being covered in shingles over the plywood. Plywood outgassing is much less, however there is some outgassing of asphalt shingles, but thats another story. This will outgass into the open air, not into a 4x2 enclosed space. Concentrations in the enclosure is what is truly deadly |
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| 01/10/10 08:54am |
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Rattler989 View Profile |
Message To: Rtl402 In reference to Message Id: 2112362 Basicly done
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| 01/10/10 02:41pm |
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Jbreddawg View Profile |
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