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 #1584436


Dawn & Terry
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 C.Cerastes

A recent photo of our little desert dweller. W/c spring of 06 @ about 6-7" long. About 20 inches now.



01/18/08  09:31pm

 #1588877


Funky munky
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  Message To: Dawn & Terry   In reference to Message Id: 1584436


 C.Cerastes

B-E-A-utiful!!!!!!

I never get tired of those little guys.

hey I’m having some problems converting mine onto pinkies.

we were going to try the "tie the pinkie to the lizard approach" but havent gotten around to it yet.

what do ya think???



01/21/08  09:04pm

 #1589103


Funky munky
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  Message To: Funky munky   In reference to Message Id: 1588877


 C.Cerastes

oh yeah mine was about 6 when we got him and now he’s about 14!!!

4 buttons, and a 5th on the way!!!



01/21/08  10:52pm

 #1589252


Morsel
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  Message To: Funky munky   In reference to Message Id: 1589103


 C.Cerastes

Maybe rub a lizard on a pinkie? That’s a weird visual...



01/22/08  04:37am

 #1589518


Funky munky
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  Message To: Morsel   In reference to Message Id: 1589252


 C.Cerastes

lol, I’ll try that but he only seems to go after things that are moving and our pet store hardly ever has live pinkies.

will the scent thing work for a thawed pinkie???



01/22/08  01:13pm

 #1595242


Funky munky
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  Message To: Funky munky   In reference to Message Id: 1589518


 C.Cerastes

bump?

forums kinda dead, huh?



01/26/08  12:56pm

 #1598207


Whit-E
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  Message To: Funky munky   In reference to Message Id: 1595242


 C.Cerastes

They sure are cool looking, I love the little hood/spike things over their eyes!!!

Sidewinder right???... They look a lot smaller then the ones around here - Colorado!!! But as I am looking around there is a species called a "Colorado Desert Sidewinder" so they are here in Colorado???? I am more familiar with the Diamond Backs here, I have never seen one of these!

I do not have a lot of knowledge about "hots" - I love to look and learn!!!



01/28/08  12:04pm

 #1598227


Funky munky
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  Message To: Whit-E   In reference to Message Id: 1598207


 C.Cerastes

yep sidewinder, they do get bigger than the one in the picture, he’s just a baby, adults are like 3 to 3.5 feet long.

yep, i think you guys get em in colorado, but get a second opinion, we get some in so-cal too.

if you want to see what the colorado desert sidewinder looks like heres the link...
Link

I don’t know if they look diff. in CO but thats a basic Idea.

Hots are awesome, and I love to look and learn too, even as a hot keeper.

if you have any more questions, post it here or PM me.



01/28/08  12:28pm

 #1602456


Dawn & Terry
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  Message To: Dawn & Terry   In reference to Message Id: 1584436


 C.Cerastes

Just shed monday night. Will get a new pic up this weekend.



01/30/08  09:59pm

 #1602683


Sully
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  Message To: Dawn & Terry   In reference to Message Id: 1602456


 C.Cerastes

Last time i check C. cerastes laterorpens does not occur on colorado, and neither to atroxes * WDB’s *

you’re most likely used to seeing prairie rattler ( crotalus viridis ) ( i also live in colorado )



01/31/08  04:11am

 #1604648


Dawn & Terry
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  Message To: Sully   In reference to Message Id: 1602683


 C.Cerastes

There are 3 different subspecies.
Colorado Desert Sidewinder (C.c. laterorepens)
Sonoran Sidewinder (C.c. cercobombus)
Mojave Desert Sidewinder (C. c. cerastes) this one is ours



02/01/08  03:35pm

 #1605563


Sully
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  Message To: Dawn & Terry   In reference to Message Id: 1604648


 C.Cerastes

I’ve always loved anything cerastes, weather it be a crote or C. cerastes. thats a real looker :)



02/02/08  02:22am

 #1606173


Dawn & Terry
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  Message To: Sully   In reference to Message Id: 1605563


 C.Cerastes

Crote? Do you mean Crotalus? they all are



02/02/08  03:34pm

 #1606857


Sully
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  Message To: Dawn & Terry   In reference to Message Id: 1606173


 C.Cerastes

Yes I mean crotalus, and no, google Cerastes cerastes.



02/02/08  11:16pm

 #1607471


Dawn & Terry
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  Message To: Sully   In reference to Message Id: 1606857


 C.Cerastes

Try Crotalus cerastes cerastes



02/03/08  01:19pm

 #1607604


SoLA
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  Message To: Dawn & Terry   In reference to Message Id: 1607471


 C.Cerastes

The name Colorado Desert Sidewinder reads...Colorado Desert, Sidewinder. Not...Colorado, Desert Sidewinder.

The Colorado Desert gets its name from being in the region of California where the Colorado River hits. As far as history has ever recorded, there have not been sidewinders in the state of Colorado. Sidewinders are a low elevation snake.

Hope this clears a few things up



02/03/08  02:51pm

 #1608017


Funky munky
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  Message To: SoLA   In reference to Message Id: 1607604


 C.Cerastes

sure does, thanks SoLA!!!



02/03/08  05:59pm

 #1608686


Sully
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  Message To: Funky munky   In reference to Message Id: 1608017


 C.Cerastes

Obviously i know about Crotalus cerastes cerastes! Cerastes cerastes is its own species!

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=Cerastes+cerastes&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

!!



02/03/08  11:30pm

 #1616002


Funky munky
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  Message To: Sully   In reference to Message Id: 1608686


 C.Cerastes

uhh, no.

The genus crotalus are rattlesnakes.

the horned viper, or Cerastes cerastes, is a viper but isn’t a rattler.

plus rattlesnakes are Ovoviviparous, meaning it gives birth to live young

and the horned viper is viviparous meaning it lays eggs.

they look somewhat alike but are really different.



02/08/08  11:35pm

 #1616482


SoLA
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  Message To: Funky munky   In reference to Message Id: 1616002


 C.Cerastes

Funky Munky

Viviparous means they give live birth.

Oviparous means they lay eggs

Ovoviviparous is a dropped scientific term.

We now separate two forms of viviparity. Lecithotrophic viviparity is a more yolk based development, and placentotrophic viviparity is a more vascular based development. All viviparous snakes are placentotrophic to a degree, but among live bearing snakes, there are both placentotrophic and lecithotrophic species.

Hope this also helps clear up that issue : )



02/09/08  01:11pm

 #1619164


Sully
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  Message To: SoLA   In reference to Message Id: 1616482


 C.Cerastes

I’m done trying to explain here, i dont see how i didnt make myself clear.... all i said was i like anything cerastes, weather it be in the crote family or Cerastes cerastes. i guess dawn and terry didnt google like i said to see that Cerastes cerastes is its own species, and is apart from Crotalus cerastes cerastes. then i even provided a link... can no one read or what.



02/11/08  04:32am

 #1619243


TJP
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  Message To: Sully   In reference to Message Id: 1619164


 C.Cerastes

"Cerastes cerastes is its own species, and is apart from Crotalus cerastes cerastes"

Technically, no. Cerastes cerastes isn’t it’s own species. Cerastes is the genus with cerastes as the species.
Just like crotalus cerastes isn’t it’s own species, it’s the genus with the species being cerastes.



02/11/08  07:19am

 #1619286


SoLA
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  Message To: TJP   In reference to Message Id: 1619243


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lol, I’ve never thought about it that way....they are the same species then. Just different genera on the opposite ends of the earth. I do think it is kind of funny though how they are about the same latitude. But that African dessert just seems so freaking hot. I’ve never been there though...and don’t really plan to.

TJP, if you guys have too much to drink going on your next herping adventure and end up getting on the wrong flight...let me know if the Sahara is really that hot : )



02/11/08  09:12am

 #1619405


Sully
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  Message To: SoLA   In reference to Message Id: 1619286


 C.Cerastes

Quote:

"Cerastes cerastes is its own species, and is apart from Crotalus cerastes cerastes"

Technically, no. Cerastes cerastes isn’t it’s own species. Cerastes is the genus with cerastes as the species.
Just like crotalus cerastes isn’t it’s own species, it’s the genus with the species being cerastes.




you’re absolutely right. but you get my point right?



02/11/08  11:38am

 #1620497


TJP
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  Message To: Sully   In reference to Message Id: 1619405


 C.Cerastes

"TJP, if you guys have too much to drink going on your next herping adventure and end up getting on the wrong flight...let me know if the Sahara is really that hot : )"

LOL. We usually only drink after herping and never before flights, so I don’t think we have to worry about that. I made the mistake of having one too many Guaro the night before we took the collectivo ride to Puerto Jiminez one year. It was the longest, bumpiest 2 hour drive in the back of a pick-up I’ve ever had. Lesson learned.
Africa is in the works, but I’m thinking we’re going to be far south of the Sahara. I’d love to go to the Saharan, but the whole 125 degree thing makes me cringe. I’ll take a rainforest anyday.
BTW, if anyone is interested, we’re planning a CR trip for May 9th-23rd. We won’t be on the Osa, but will hit Panama. If anyone wants to see wild aspers and eyelash vipers, it’s definitely a trip for you.

Sully, I did get what you were saying, I just had to make it a little more confusing. ; )



02/12/08  06:52am

 #1620707


Sully
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  Message To: TJP   In reference to Message Id: 1620497


 C.Cerastes

Quote:

Sully, I did get what you were saying, I just had to make it a little more confusing. ; )



oh, thats perfect then :)



02/12/08  12:58pm

 #1635573


Funky munky
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  Message To: SoLA   In reference to Message Id: 1616482


 C.Cerastes

SoLA, I was kidding for the most part, but I didn’t know that Ovoviviparous was dropped. Thanks for also clearing that up for me.

: )



02/24/08  01:19am


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