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 #88053


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 Help, my water dragon is dying !!! ASAP

Please help. My young WD has suddenly become ill. He wont eat now, is looking very thin, very inactive (Altho does still move about to keep warm etc). He has lived with my other WD for months now (See pics). I have tried changin the substrate also.

There has been no changes to the tank or anything else.

Please help, he just lays there with his eyes shut and flat to the ground. I cant get him to eat or open his mouth so i can force feed him either.

Thanks

Darren


06/17/04  5:18pm
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 #88092


Saf
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 Help, my water dragon is dying !!! ASAP

hav u got a vet which you can take him to? how long has he bieng like that? im really sorry but i dont no wot 2 suggest, has he lost colour, sprit ect? or could the other dragons maybe have just stared to bully him? and hes feeling a bit down? meybe itd help to try move him to another viv (if you have one) to see if this makes a diffrence or would he stress to much? have u tryed tempting him with wax worms, getting him out and tempting him to open his eyes? im sure uve tryed most of this but id try get him to a vet or maybe a reptile shop? someone may be able to take a look at him...im so so so sorry i cant b much more help i really am and i really hope ur lil one is okay. could he just be off his food? mine went of his food for bout 2 weeks and i had to change from black crckets to brown again so he would eat, have you tryed that?
i really hope he gets betta and eats!!
sorry for not being alot of help
xx saf xx


06/17/04  5:58pm
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 #88094


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  Message To: Saf   In reference to Message Id: 88092


 Help, my water dragon is dying !!! ASAP

sorry, ment mouth not eyes...relised just as i posted it.
xx saf xx


06/17/04  5:59pm
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 #88099


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  Message To: Saf   In reference to Message Id: 88092


 Help, my water dragon is dying !!! ASAP

I’d have said hes been like this for about a week now, gradually getting worse. I have been to the 2 reptile stores to get some waxies but neither have had any in each time !! I thought I could have used them to tempt him to eat also.

The other one isnt bullying him, he used to when this one was first put in his tank, but he still kept eating etc. and now they are best of friends- always sit on top of each other etc !!

I have tried dripping some water into his mouth but it hasnt helped.

It was about a wek or so ago i had a flood in the soil and substrate section. I tried drying it out about 4 days ago but the soil is still very soggy - altho it is couple of inches below the substrate anyway - which I have also replaced.

Anyone else have any ideas - he is sat on me now just still as always :(

Thanks SAF

Darren


06/17/04  6:05pm
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 #88127


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  Message To: Dazbo   In reference to Message Id: 88099


 Help, my water dragon is dying !!! ASAP

could be constipation...or internal parasites, I suggest get him to a vet asap.. what are your temps like? What is the humidity at? You can also get waxies at bait shops, most good bait shops worms are safe to feed your lizard, and waxies have a good amount of calcium in them. Do you have a UVB bulb? How old is the bulb? Also have you been giving him calcium before he got sick? GD


06/17/04  6:32pm
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 #88367


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 Help, my water dragon is dying !!! ASAP

Hey Dazbo. My smaller dragon did the same thing for about 2 weeks. What it is, is a lack of proper food. For instance: I was feeding my dragon crickets, but they were far too big for him to take, therefor he starved himself to death, and he would lie there with his mouth open and his eyes shut. What I finally ended up doing is getting some small mealworms and dusting them with Reptivite Vitamin supplement. Now he is very active and very healthy. Just try feeding him some smaller food items, like small mealworms. And to be on the safe side, separate him from the other one. It sounds more like a stress issue than anything.

Good Luck

SES


06/18/04  2:12am
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 #88466


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  Message To: SmileEmptySoul   In reference to Message Id: 88367


 Help, my water dragon is dying !!! ASAP

im sorry i wasnt much help :( i also had the same probelm with jollop with feeding him crickets which wer to big and he would eat them so now hes on brown crickets...dunno if thats ne help but anyway good luck.

xx saf xx


06/18/04  10:56am
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 #88478


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  Message To: Saf   In reference to Message Id: 88466


 Help, my water dragon is dying !!! ASAP

right,

renew your UVB bulb if it is over 6 months old.

feed smaller food items

make suere he/she has enough hiding spots to calm down and get rid of stress.

hope this helps.

...raz


06/18/04  11:17am
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 #88551


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  Message To: Razor   In reference to Message Id: 88478


 Help, my water dragon is dying !!! ASAP

light is only few months old. I cant feed him anything smaller than he already gets because they are already really small. I need to be able to get hold of some waxworms i think cos he loves them. By the time i finish work tho, the shops are shut !!

He also is in the same state today.

thought about puttin some multivit powder in some water then tryin to drip the water into his mouth ?? would it work ?

Cheers everyone


06/18/04  1:28pm
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 #88743


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  Message To: Dazbo   In reference to Message Id: 88551


 Help, my water dragon is dying !!! ASAP

Wer u from? (sorry im not trying to be funny or out) just i no some shops in north east of UK coz that wer i am and i no that they are open quite late aswell as saterday and sundays and sell waxworms ect. im sure trying multivit powder with water is always worth a go...
anyway ud luck
xx saf xx


06/18/04  6:08pm
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 #88908


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 A Little Help.

I wouldnt try to force him to eat, he is much better doing that on his own. It sounds like he is really stressed out due to the fact that he just lies there and sleeps all day.

Ok here is the thing about waxworms: They are very high in fat, and protein and very low in everything else. But in the state that your dragon is in, I would defintely go for some. Most every dragon that I have seen, even after they have just eaten, will tear apart some waxworms. Just make sure that you dust them with some Multi-vitamin and drop them in a dish and place your dragon beside it. Also, dont buy too many, they turn into Moths very quickly, even overnight you will find a few cacoons in your bunch. Just be careful, and give him some time.

Good Luck

WDM


06/19/04  1:05am
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 #89094


Dazbo
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  Message To: WaterDragonMan   In reference to Message Id: 88908


 A Little Help.

i have used wax worms before and know he loves them. i know about thier nutritional value also but thought it would be better than nothing if he would eat them !!

Anyways, I finally got some and i have one prob - he wont open his eyes so doesnt know theyre there !!

I managed to force feed him as a lasst resort. today, he doesnt seem worse - maybe little bit better but prob just same as yesterday.

I will try the vit powder in water next - may perk him up a bit !!

Thanks - will keep yas posted


06/20/04  1:45pm
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 #95251


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 A Little Help.

To pry its mouth open and force feed it will work for a little bit, but if you force feed it too much, it will damage the jaw and the throat area, but to get him to start eating, it is a good idea. Try bigger crickets to see if he wants them, and I don’t know if Reptilefood.com runs over there, but I would recommend looking up feeder sites that you can order over the internet and are fedex delivered. To pry his mouth open and any other information that you think I can help with, send me a message and I will help you to the best of my ability. Hope you get help before its too late.


07/04/04  2:11pm
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