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Newfgal View Profile |
Message To: Rallaster In reference to Message Id: 1792315 MVB Bulbs info
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| 07/12/08 12:53pm |
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Rick Ross View Profile |
Message To: Cphill58 In reference to Message Id: 1792307 MVB Bulbs info
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| 07/13/08 01:41pm |
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Rick Ross View Profile |
Message To: Rallaster In reference to Message Id: 1792315
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| 07/13/08 02:09pm |
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Cphill58 View Profile |
Message To: Cphill58 In reference to Message Id: 1793637 MVB Bulbs info
If you have evidence that these 2 bulbs are made by the same company ...the why don’t you provide it . I am willing to examine any claim you make ...but so far you have not provided anything to back that statement up ....IMO I beleiive you are incorrect ....but it wouldn’t be the first time I was wrong.... CP |
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| 07/13/08 04:08pm |
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Rick Ross View Profile |
Message To: Rick Ross In reference to Message Id: 1793779 MVB Bulbs info
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| 07/13/08 05:22pm |
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Cphill58 View Profile |
Message To: Cphill58 In reference to Message Id: 1793864 MVB Bulbs info
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| 07/13/08 08:02pm |
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Rick Ross View Profile |
Message To: Rick Ross In reference to Message Id: 1794032 MVB Bulbs info
-You CANNOT dim MV lamps. They simply will not work. -T-Rex and Mega-Ray SB lamps are indeed manufactured by the same company. The Trex SB is a copy of the Mega-Ray SB. Both are excellent lamps. -Neither the Trex or the Mega-Ray SB lamp will project significant UVB to 6-feet. -Mega-Ray SB Zoo will project up to 6-ft, but you need to be "approved" to order it. You also need to own a UVB Meter. -There are no Mercury Vapor Self-Ballasted lamps lower than 100-watts. The technology is just not there yet. The starting wattage for SB MV lamps is 100-watts. -Follow the link that Frozenlava provided and read all about UVB lighting for reptiles. It is the most accurate, up to date info you can get on the net. ;-) Read the MV lamp study and see how Powersun compared to the rest. Frozenlava- Welcome to the Herp Center Network. Glad to have you here. Dudeamis- Welcome to HCN. You can always call or write to ReptileUV with your set-up specs and they will help you decide which lamp is right for your particular needs (try THAT with Trex, LOL) Go to www.reptiluv.com, look on the Contacts page and either e-mail or call Bob Mac. He’s always glad to help! |
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| 07/13/08 08:07pm |
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Cphill58 View Profile |
Message To: Cphill58 In reference to Message Id: 1794037 MVB Bulbs info
Go to the page that you find the info on ...copy the address in the address bar ...click the LINK tab here paste then END LINK tab It is easy to create links once you get the hang of it. What was I or anyone supposed to have gained by your information ..... I fail to see your point .... Indeed Mega Ray tested the T-rex UV Heat and determined it to be lacking in quality, T-REX has a faster burn in ...decay rate! I posted the link for all to enjoy and I will submit another link just for those of you who missed it .... If you still contend that Mega- Ray and T-Rex are one in the same ...You have been mislead. Why would Mega Ray test their own bulb to their own bulb ,....DOOOH Here are the links... Link Link NOTE THE DAECAY RATE OF THE T-REX UV HEAT...vs THE MEGA RAY.... about 1/2 way through the article Thanks Rick ...if you managed to confuse me ....I can’t imagine what other folks are getting from your post... CP |
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| 07/14/08 08:38pm |
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Newfgal View Profile |
Message To: Newfgal In reference to Message Id: 1795414 MVB Bulbs info
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| 07/15/08 09:34am |
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Rick Ross View Profile |
Message To: Rick Ross In reference to Message Id: 1796017
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| 07/15/08 01:07pm |
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Newfgal View Profile |
Message To: Newfgal In reference to Message Id: 1796230 MVB Bulbs info
Nancy. |
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| 07/15/08 01:32pm |
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Rick Ross View Profile |
Message To: Rick Ross In reference to Message Id: 1796268 MVB Bulbs info
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| 07/15/08 02:02pm |
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Cphill58 View Profile |
Message To: Cphill58 In reference to Message Id: 1796304 MVB Bulbs info
And I am trying to better myself by being open minded and giving you a chance to step - up and have a serious say in these matters. So instead of saying derogatory crap ...I said you confused me and asked for an explanation. Listen , my goal is really to get as much info as possible ....good bad or otherwise ....just lead me in the direction so I can go read it myself ...I am registered with the Herp Center ..I suppose I could go hunt for hours ...to find that thread.... Then on the other hand you can copy and paste the link ...viola.....too easy. I am just frustrated that the pirate has hidden the treasure and says he has a map but won’t reveal it .....LOL....get what I mean ...we are on the same ship me buckoo..... Cp |
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| 07/15/08 07:08pm |
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Cphill58 View Profile |
Message To: Cphill58 In reference to Message Id: 1796743 MVB Bulbs info
I bet you may even know some of the names...... Quote: > On 7/20/08 7:40 AM, "drache613" wrote:
> > > > > I had a quick question. I recently had a friend on the forum who has > > been using the Zoomed Powersun on all of her dragons, with no > > problems at all. > > Well, recently, one of her dragons began acting strangely. She > > attributed it to something else, started doing supportive care, etc. > > The vet could not find anything wrong with him. > > She had noticed some black specks floating around in the light, but > > did not think anything of it. > > However, over the course of a couple of weeks, he got worse & then > > passed away. She took him back to the vet & he diagnosed him with > > radiation poisoning. Can you believe that? Now I personally cannot > > confirm it was emitting UVC, but based on what the vet said this is > > what it sounds like happened. > > Can a bulb all of the sudden burst & go bad that quickly? > > Has anyone heard of this before from these lights? This is the first > > time that I ever had but thought I would ask people here. Perhaps it > > was just a fluke or a bad bulb? She is going to be contacting the > > company to talk to them. > > If anyone has any feedback that would be great. > > Thanks. > > > > Tracie And The feed back:: Quote: Hi, Tracie.
No need to panic about this... I don’t like to criticize a colleague, but there are times when there seems no alternative. The dragon surely could not have died from "radiation poisoning" ... for several very good reasons. ZooMed Powersuns, like all properly made mercury vapor lamps, cannot "burst and go bad" nor can they leak UVC. The arc tube in which the mercury vapour is sealed will only operate as long as it is intact. If it cracked or broke, the arc won’t light and there is no UVC, ...LOL, there is no light at all, it is a dead lamp. On the other hand, if the arc tube was undamaged and was working fine, but the outer glass - the "bulb" - cracked or broke, the filament part of the bulb would immediately pop and this breaks the circuit, of course, and the arc tube goes out and there is no UVC, no light at all, ...again it is a dead lamp. (If it was an EB lamp, by the way, you might think the arc tube could go on burning... but it can’t, because these have little "filaments" called burn fuses, they don’t ballast the lamp, but they pop immediately, in the same way, if there is a crack and air gets into the lamp...) What if the coating on the inside of the lamp was imperfect? Kerry has suggested it might have "come loose", but it is a spray coating so that isn’t very likely... and in addition, I might be wrong on this one, but I don’t think it is a phosphor coating, like that found on fluorescent tubes, which absorbs UVC and turns it into visible light; certainly there is no obvious "phosphor" signature in the spectrum, which looks like 100% mercury vapour light. I think the coating is merely a diffuser, like a fine paint spray, turning a spot-type lamp into a flood, and reducing the UVB in the process. What is preventing UVC from being emitted, then, is the nature of the glass itself... the typical glass used for mercury vapour lamps is of a type that blocks all UVC and blocks a little of the UVB, too, in fact. So I don’t think this lamp would be capable of emitting UVC, even if there was no white coating at all. ZooMed Powersuns don’t emit a great deal of UVB, either, in fact... the manufacturers themselves say the lamps emit the equivalent of "the noonday sun in the shade" (quote from leaflet). You aren’t going to get "radiation poisoning" from that. I reckon the black specks are little bits of metal which have spluttered off the tungsten filament. I’ve got quite a few of these in my oldest lamps on test, including a 3-year-old MegaRay SB. Eventually the filament loses so much tungsten that it is too thin and breaks, and that’s the way it dies of old age..... ....so... this Powersun, how old was it? Could this dragon have developed MBD and died from a lack of radiation, rather than the opposite? What were the symptoms of this poor dragon’s "radiation poisoning"? Photo-kerato-conjunctivitis - eyes closed, eyelids swelling, and a miserable dragon hiding in a corner - would be the first thing I think I’d expect to see in a beardie, if a lamp was emitting anything nasty. Skin "burns" and blisters might follow... I’m so sorry he died, but I really think it was unlikely to be UVC from the lamp. If she is convinced there was a problem with it, she needs to have it tested - a quick look with a UVB and a UVC meter should be all she needs to have done. I’m sorry for her loss. All the best, Frances And from the owner of Mega Ray ....who is in this forum / group !! Quote: Posted by: "" bmaccargar
Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:12 am (PDT) What Frances said here is on the spot 100%. There is no way that the animal died from radiation poisoning from the PowerSun but lack of UVB is much more likely if it was indeed a UV related incident at all but still not likely unless the dragon was gravid. Now if they were using the ZooMed compact fluorescent that would be a different story. We are always sorry to hear about anyone loosing there dear pets. Hopefully a necropsy was done to help understand what happened. Best Regards, BobMacCargar Sign up here to read all about UVB and questions pertaining to it. Its Freeeeeeeeeeeeee..... http://pets.groups.>>>>>>>>>>>>yahoo.com/group/UVB_Meter_Owners/messages?o=1 just take the arrow signs out of the asddress. Chris |
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| 07/21/08 09:21pm |
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Newfgal View Profile |
Message To: Newfgal In reference to Message Id: 1804525 MVB Bulbs info
Nancy |
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| 07/22/08 07:07am |
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Cphill58 View Profile |
Message To: Cphill58 In reference to Message Id: 1804810 MVB Bulbs info
Cp |
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| 08/08/08 12:39am |
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Ordinaryworld_ View Profile |
Message To: Ordinaryworld_ In reference to Message Id: 1823599 MVB Bulbs info
It measures 36x18x18 While my baby is still in his 20g long I am going to modify it to have some more ventilation on the top for two reasons. 1 to allow the MVB to project into the enclosure and 2 for more air ventilation to allow a cool side to be created. The other question I have is... I was thinking of making a shaded area with a sort of tall wall on the cool side as to shield from the MVB rays/heat since some people on here said that they found their cool sides a little warm some days. Has anyone tried this and succeeded? |
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| 08/08/08 10:42pm |
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Cphill58 View Profile |
Message To: Cphill58 In reference to Message Id: 1824562 MVB Bulbs info
It requires a minimum of 12" clearance from the animal and I will state again the temps are 98-104 depending on what the subdstrate or basking surfaces is ...wood or stone? Air temps depending on ventilation can soar. CP |
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| 08/09/08 11:19am |
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Cphill58 View Profile |
Message To: Cphill58 In reference to Message Id: 1824884 MVB Bulbs info
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| 08/17/08 01:04pm |
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Mike/eddie View Profile |
Message To: Mike/eddie In reference to Message Id: 1833852 MVB Bulbs info
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| 08/18/08 03:40pm |
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Newfgal View Profile |
Message To: Newfgal In reference to Message Id: 1835148 MVB Bulbs info
Quote: and would the deep dome keep it far enough away from the screen to keep the screen from burning?
You do know that screen and glass will block some uvb rays right? What you could do is cut a hole in the screen the same size as the dome...if the screen is mesh, it will burn though, those lights get very hot... I’m sure CP will have some tips for you as well... Nancy. |
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| 08/18/08 05:03pm |
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Mike/eddie View Profile |
Message To: Mike/eddie In reference to Message Id: 1835252 MVB Bulbs info
the only problem with the light stand is that it slides under the bottom of the cage but my cage is actualy bigger than the stand lol so i dont think that would work(i might just buy a new stand cause i need one anyway and then i wouldnt have a problem). i guess i could cut the screen but i dont realy wana do that. im just looking for the cheapest/best solutuion cause its already like 50$ just for the light. |
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| 08/18/08 09:57pm |
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Mike/eddie View Profile |
Message To: Mike/eddie In reference to Message Id: 1835633 MVB Bulbs info
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| 08/18/08 10:04pm |
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Newfgal View Profile |
Message To: Newfgal In reference to Message Id: 1835639 MVB Bulbs info
Nancy. |
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| 08/19/08 07:13am |
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Rallaster View Profile |
Message To: Rallaster In reference to Message Id: 1835884 MVB Bulbs info
What I used for the top of my BD cage is similar to this but not exactly. It will def. do the job that you want it to do though, as I don’t think that a 100W MVB will be able to burn through it. |
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| 08/19/08 08:31am |
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Rallaster View Profile |
Message To: Rallaster In reference to Message Id: 1835905 MVB Bulbs info
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| 08/19/08 08:38am |
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Shamere07 View Profile |
Message To: Shamere07 In reference to Message Id: 1835907 MVB Bulbs info
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| 08/19/08 03:28pm |
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Newfgal View Profile |
Message To: Newfgal In reference to Message Id: 1836212 MVB Bulbs info
Nancy. |
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| 08/19/08 04:19pm |
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Mike/eddie View Profile |
Message To: Mike/eddie In reference to Message Id: 1836253 MVB Bulbs info
one question the infared temp gun(the megaray one) does that just measure the surface temp and no ambient air temp? and do you need to know both or if you know one of those temps are right the other shouldnt be off? (does that make sense lol) oh jk one more i have a 150watt rated ceramic fixture will that be good enough? i dont wana buy anymore crap... |
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| 08/19/08 10:31pm |
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Newfgal View Profile |
Message To: Newfgal In reference to Message Id: 1836728 MVB Bulbs info
Nancy. |
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| 08/19/08 11:03pm |
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