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 #1788899


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   Message To: Aandfsoccr04   In reference to Message Id: 1788600


 Humidity question

Ok,you have a lot of work to do.First off the snake needs to have a temperature gradient so it can thermoregulate,one side of the cage needs to be warmer than the other.On the cool side you want a temp of 75-80 degrees.and on the warm side you want a basking temp od 85,no higher though as it can be dangerous for these snake.Temperature gradient is VERY important!

Next,you need to provide a constant humidity level of 70-80%,This is also vital for this species!A humid hide will not cut it if the cage is too dry!

To monitor the temperature on both sides of the tank,and the humidity you need only one device.Go to wal mart or any hardware store and buy a digital indoor/outdoor thermometer with a hygrometer(humidity gauge).When you get the thermometer home put the base unit on one side of the cage,and the remote probe on the other.so with one device you can monitor the temps on both sides of the cage.

So in review.

Cool side75-80 degrees.

warm side,85 for basking,No Higher!!

Humidity at a constant 70-80%.


And as for cage sizing at this size you might as well just buy the cage that it will live in forever.four by Two minimum.The bigger the better.

Jason.
07/09/08  07:32pm

 #1789249


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   Message To: Aandfsoccr04   In reference to Message Id: 1788899


 Humidity question

Alright that sounds pretty good. I guess i will pick that up next time im at the store. I’m not sure how i’m gonna get the humidity up unless i just mist the cage or something. I guess i can figure that out. Yeah i’m about done building two really big cages and one of them will be hers. What kind of accessories should go in a brb cage?



07/09/08  11:42pm

 #1789257


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   Message To: Addicted   In reference to Message Id: 1789249


 Humidity question

To help keep up the humidity in tanks simply cover about 3/4 of the screen top.adjust as needed.
07/09/08  11:51pm

 #1789260


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   Message To: Aandfsoccr04   In reference to Message Id: 1789257


 Humidity question

yeah but what is going to keep it humid since I just have an under the tank heater. How do you get rid of eye caps to?
07/09/08  11:52pm

 #1789265


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   Message To: Addicted   In reference to Message Id: 1789260


 Humidity question

if you have a big enough water source,sone moist substrate and coner some of the top you should be able to have the proper humidity.

For eye caps,just get the proper humidity in the cage,next shed should take care of it.if they remain there are other things you can do.post back.

jason
07/09/08  11:58pm

 #1789288


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   Message To: Aandfsoccr04   In reference to Message Id: 1789265


 Humidity question

She had them before her last shed which was about three days ago or so and they are still on there. I think i am just gonna try and take them off myself. Alright i will cover my tank then with a towel or plastic wrap.



07/10/08  12:12am

 #1789382


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   Message To: Fillerbunny   In reference to Message Id: 1789288


 Humidity question

"I seem to have a problem with my humidity because I have not yet got a clean full shed from my snake. It is always in small pieces and I am guessing that it is because of the humidity"

"She sheds perfectly and i mist her when she turns that light color right before she sheds and it seems to work."

Im refraining from sayin anything condesinding for the snake’s sake but does those two responses make any sense to you??? Another trick to get the humidity up is a bigger water tray as for the eye caps PLEASE DONT HURT YOUR SNAKE try to get it to soak put it in a pot of luke warm water and try to get its head dipped in there a few times DONT DROWN IT OR FORCE IT UNDER just dip the head and then maybe lett it swim a lil, if you try to pull them off yourself you could cause serious damage to your snake’s eyes. the reason the skin isn’t coming off is because it’s stuck to the new skin b/c of low humidity, it’s basically dried on there, and if you pull it off BOTH skins could tear.
07/10/08  02:57am

 #1789385


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   Message To: Fillerbunny   In reference to Message Id: 1789382


 Humidity question

oh yeah, just incase you get confused, luke warm is just barely warm.

don’t boil it or anything, just b/c i said a pot. you can use a bowl, even.
07/10/08  02:59am

 #1789387


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   Message To: Aandfsoccr04   In reference to Message Id: 1787013


 Humidity question

i have one more suggestion for you, you should take the old skin out because it can grow bacteria on it and this can hurt your snake. it’s best to take it out. Not to mention the feces and urites. Cleaning the tank every now and then won’t hurt I promise. Your snake will be a lot happier if she can move around her tank without running into poop every time she moves.
07/10/08  03:02am

 #1789393


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   Message To: Reflex   In reference to Message Id: 1789382


 Humidity question

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try to get it to soak put it in a pot of luke warm water and try to get its head dipped in there a few times



Soaking the snake or dipping it’s head doesn’t do anything but wet it and stress it out.

A better approach would be to get a smll rag damp (ot wet) with warm water, and put it in a pillowcase, also dampened with warm water. Put the snake in the bag and tie it loosely, let the snake slither freely so the humidity will loosen it and the towel will gently take it off without any force or stress.
07/10/08  03:37am

 #1789460


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   Message To: Addicted   In reference to Message Id: 1789393


 Humidity question

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A better approach would be to get a smll rag damp (ot wet) with warm water, and put it in a pillowcase, also dampened with warm water. Put the snake in the bag and tie it loosely, let the snake slither freely so the humidity will loosen it and the towel will gently take it off without any force or stress.



That works well,i did that with a rescue.

And also,you can try to remove eye caps yourself,Gently try to pull it off with tweezers.Do not force it,just try ligthtly.
07/10/08  07:40am

 #1789595


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   Message To: Aandfsoccr04   In reference to Message Id: 1789460


 Humidity question

I was saying before i misted her when she turned light I had a hard time with her shedding. Now that i mist her with a spray bottle when she turns light she has shed in one piece. I didn’t know that it can grow bacteria or else I would take it out. I was going to change the tank I just didn’t know if I should put the stuff I had previously shown in the picture back in the tank or if i should just use repti bark. I will try the pillow case thing tonight and see if that helps. I am afraid to pull them off myself because im afraid it will hurt her.



07/10/08  10:42am

 #1790021


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   Message To: Fillerbunny   In reference to Message Id: 1789595


 Humidity question

The pillow case should work but that doesnt mean that soaking it wont either as long as your gentle with the snake it has worked for me for a couple of bad sheds a couple years back, It most definitely helps why would a damp towel work but not water that doesnt make sense its all about the water loosening up the dried skin, also it seems if he has a humid box putting the snake in a humid pillow case might not do much more then the box??? And i definitely wouldnt pull the eye caps off unless the your sure they are nice and moist and the edges are starting to come off but you could still hurt your snake if its not ready if the skins havnt separated.



07/10/08  03:34pm

 #1790070


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   Message To: Aandfsoccr04   In reference to Message Id: 1790021


 Humidity question

I’m definitely not going to try and pull them off myself. I guess it will be easiest to put her in the bathtub with lukewarm water and let her swim around in it. I’ll see how she does and if they disappear.



07/10/08  04:09pm

 #1790250


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   Message To: Reflex   In reference to Message Id: 1790021


 Humidity question

Fillerbunny...

There is more than one way to approach this situation, just ways that work better for some, I hope you know. I was not saying your approach won’t work at all, and sorry if I came out like that. I was just saying that there are more things that happen with the damp towel/pillowcase trick and I use it frequently for rescues and it works 100% of the time. What it does:

The snake is not stressing out because it sees nothing in the pillowcase. Reptiles are odd in the way that if they are in a gentle place and can’t see, they calm down.

Being in a small area that is damp and warm makes it humid enough to loosen the caps.

The towel and the bag both wets the caps, and gently rubs on them as the snake moves through it. This helps gently pull the caps off without force or accidents, and is only as rough on the snake as the snake feels comfortable with.

No water gets in the mouth or nose of the snake.
07/10/08  06:27pm

 #1790261


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   Message To: Fillerbunny   In reference to Message Id: 1790250


 Humidity question

Okay I can understand that and it sounds fine, the reason I responded in that way is it seemed like you were saying the way I said wouldnt work I understand what you were sayin and accept ur apology furthermore I agree that it will keep the snake from getting water in its mouth or nose so maybe it is a better way but as you said its not the only way



07/10/08  06:35pm

 #1790517


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   Message To: Aandfsoccr04   In reference to Message Id: 1790261


 Humidity question

alright thanks guys. i switched to repti bark and i covered seventy percent of the top with saran wrap so it should be all good. I changed the whole bedding tonight as well.



07/10/08  09:44pm

 #1790811


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   Message To: Fillerbunny   In reference to Message Id: 1790517


 Humidity question

thats great Im sure you legless one will enjoy that and as for the bedding if it was coconut husk that is ok to use just be sure you know what it is ya know but it does hold moist repti bark works good too I personally am a big fan of cypress because it doesnt mold



07/11/08  01:53am

 #1791347


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   Message To: Aandfsoccr04   In reference to Message Id: 1790811


 Humidity question

I was talking to the guy that runs a few of the pet stores last night and also has twelve brb and he said that he doesn’t like cypress mulch because it dries out a lot. He said he uses this stuff called bedabees. I don’t know if you have heard of it or not but he said he really likes it. I might try that after i clean the tank the next time.



07/11/08  02:57pm

 #1791655


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   Message To: Fillerbunny   In reference to Message Id: 1791347


 Humidity question

thats fine to each his own my tank keeps humidity great with the cypress but as long as you are doing as much research as you can to know exactly what you snake needs and givin the best care you can give then you snake should thrive
07/11/08  06:36pm

 #1791701


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   Message To: Addicted   In reference to Message Id: 1791655


 Humidity question

If you are not comfortable trying to remove eye caps That’s fine,but it can be done.
07/11/08  07:10pm

 #1792077


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   Message To: Aandfsoccr04   In reference to Message Id: 1791701


 Humidity question

Yeah she seems to be fine. I dont see her having any problems and I think i do enough research on animals to raise a zoo. and about eye caps. i just don’t really want to remove them with tweezers or anything and i put her in the bath tub at one point but that didn’t work so well. she happened to get out. haha.



07/12/08  01:18am

 #1868670


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   Message To: Aandfsoccr04   In reference to Message Id: 1774573


 Humidity question

An easy way to solve your humidity problems is to change from a tank to a rubbermaid big about 30 gallons or bigger and use cypress mulch which can be brought at any pet store.

Below are pictures of my rainbows set up.

Also another way to make sure your snake sheds well is when you know its in shed mode at least every other day if you can (until you get a perfect shed) fill your tub up with water (not too much as to where the snake is trying its hardest to swim) and leave the snake in there (supervise it so it wont be gone if you leave and come back lol) for about 15 - 20 minutes. and this will also help the snake’s body stay hydrated enough for a good shed.

Another thing is, if you dont already have one you are going to need a water dish big enough for your snake to soak in if you are goign to keep it in the tank.

if your snake is allowed to soak in its water dish (if the water dish is big enough) then you wont have to do the tub soaking i told you about because the snake its self will know when its time to take a dip in the water.

also you need to mist the enclosure daily.





09/26/08  11:22am

 #1876985


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   Message To: Deadvenom-x   In reference to Message Id: 1868670


 Humidity question

this may sound REALLLYYYY weird but i actually take my boa(not a rainbow but still) in the shower with me about once or twice a week...not hot enough to harm her but enoguh to get hydrated...it works wonders with her sheds...i have constant humidity issues at my house(even with covering the tank/spraying) so thats what i do =p
10/08/08  01:16am

 #1876986


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   Message To: Aandfsoccr04   In reference to Message Id: 1774573


 Humidity question

oop slol..didnt see how old this was XD
10/08/08  01:16am

 #1879228


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   Message To: Aandfsoccr04   In reference to Message Id: 1876986


 Humidity question

man i havent been on this website in forever. but thanks for all the help guys. my snake is shedding great as of lately. misting the tank a few times a day and a big water dish sure does work wonders.



10/12/08  03:39am

 #1884614


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   Message To: Mc.Ragons   In reference to Message Id: 1879228


 Humidity question

Im a little late but I just wanted to throw some stuff out for BRB’s you want 4 inches of substrate at least to hold humidity the temps should stay in the 70’s and maybe jsut into 80 in the basking spot get a 66 quart rubber maid container and a hygrometer which only means a thermometer that registers humidity as well get one with a indoor measurement and a probe to put in the hide opposite the actual device is on
Simply go to kmart the hygrometers are 18$ and 66 quart rubber maids are 8-12$ and they say what size they are there put 20 holes about as big as a pencil in the sides and put at least 4 inches of sub strait put the heating pad one one side of the tank put on hide on taht and put the probe into it then place the device on the other side to monitor the entire tank and put another hide over there put the water bowl on the cool side then just poor VERY little amounts of water on the ground or spray it well you will be amazed your humidity even with 75% in a tank will be 3x harder to keep up then in a rubber maid this is not meant to be mean and trust me the rubber maids do not kill then they are GREAT for snakes just so you know I keep my 4 ball pythons my BRB my carpet python my RTB and my Retic all in them they all have perfect sheds eat well and are very active
Just some advice Btw No Sub Strait is Best alot of opinion is involved BUT some are not good and can harm your snake all this information is online and most of it is on this site

Good luck I hope you make the right improvement to keep your snake alive and happy

Ps: retic is young I will eventually build a tank

--matt
10/20/08  11:40pm

 #1884640


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   Message To: Aandfsoccr04   In reference to Message Id: 1884614


 Humidity question

alright. that sounds pretty good. my tank stays anywhere from 75-100 depending on what the weather is like outside and how sunny it is.



10/21/08  01:14am
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