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 #1674523


Dragongirl6
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   Message To: Futurebullybreeder   In reference to Message Id: 1674411


 Highland Lynx cats..

Futurebullybreeder, any cat can be mean, and any cat can be nice. Yes, different pure breeds have different temperaments, but I know some coons that are really sweet! Is she spayed? You also might consider the fact that she probably will not get along with another cat.

Anyway, I am saying that you can head to a shelter and pick up a fabulous, inexpensive mutt cat that needs a home and the shelter can tell you all about its temperament. If you buy an expensive kitten, it doesn’t ensure personality when it’s older. I’d suggest a one year old cat so you can tell more about its personality. And a male, lol, if you want your female to get along with it.

All I’m saying is that just because your coon is mean, doesn’t mean all coons are (I know some amazing coons!), and just because yoshi’s lynxes are great, doesn’t mean they all are. You also have to take into account that lynx cats are not really domestic and will require some extra research and knowledge.

That’s why I like mutts, they tend to get the best of all their breeds and if you go with an adult, you always know exactly what you are getting : )

Also, what bullies to you plan on breeding?
03/24/08  09:15pm

 #1674806


Turtlemom
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   Message To: Turtlemom   In reference to Message Id: 1674523


 Highland Lynx cats..

LOL!!!!

My ex had a maine coon that ended up staying with his mom when we got married. One day when my niece (who was 7 at the time) was visiting, he left and warned her to "LEAVE THE CAT ALONE...SHE’S MEAN". He came back to find that "mean old cat" laying in her arms like a baby, sleeping! That same cat would let me rub it’s belly and brush and cut the mats out of her fur. They expected her to be mean so she was.... to them. It really depends on how they are raised and treated.

Anyway... I do agree... no matter what kind of cat you’re looking for (except maybe a Highland Lynx), chances are you can find a kitty to fit the description at a shelter.

Yoshi...your cats are gorgeous!!!! Laya is beautiful, but being a sucker for tabbies I really like Saki. With those ears, do they have scottish fold in them?



03/25/08  01:01am

 #1674820


Yoshi55
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   Message To: Futurebullybreeder   In reference to Message Id: 1674411


 Highland Lynx cats..

Oh my well that sux.. They do look like bobcats yes, b/c they have bob cat breed in them. But they are no where near them.I would not get one of these cats with your main coon if it is that violant. It will make the highland mean too. So, wait until you can get one. Here are some cute pics of them I just took tonight! :)





03/25/08  01:26am

 #1674825


Yoshi55
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   Message To: Yoshi55   In reference to Message Id: 1674820


 Highland Lynx cats..

And to turtlemom’s question.... what you see is the breed "jungle curl" not scottish fold. :)
03/25/08  01:37am

 #1675104


Futurebullybreeder
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   Message To: Futurebullybreeder   In reference to Message Id: 1674825


 Highland Lynx cats..

Of course she is spayed, there are to many cats in this world. I have two other cats that are actually from shelters, lol. One is all black, his name is duece the other is a normal tiger striped tabby, her name is angel. And yes I already know know that all breeds have a potential of being agressive and nice, I never said they didn’t. Thanks for the welcome. I love yoshi’s cats, they are beautiful. I want one and if I could find one in a shelter, I’d adopt it is a heart beat. I also have a dog that came from a shelter, Brian, he is a pit bull/australian cattle dog mix. I used to volunteer at a shelter, i go back to visit every once and awile and have found a lot of animals that i came to love, so I adopted them.

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Also, what bullies to you plan on breeding?


American Bull Dogs, but I wouldn’t be breeding until I am done learning everything there is to know about the breed itself and breeding. I already have the perfect vet alighned to team up with, I am getting ready to go back to school to study veterinary medicine as well.


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You also have to take into account that lynx cats are not really domestic and will require some extra research and knowledge.


I always do my research before investing into any animals, not just cats and I know that it isn’t a domestic breed, lol. It does have the name lynx. I of course want to be as knowledable is the animal as I can be that way when something comes up, I may know what to do or know if it is a hazard or not. I actually have my vets home phone # just in case there is an emergency with one of my pets and they need immediate attention, he is a great vet, he will make a trip at any time of the night for me if I need it. But if I call he knows there is an emergency because I usually know what is wrong and how to handle it.



03/25/08  11:08am

 #1689811


DragonMyr
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   Message To: DragonMyr   In reference to Message Id: 1674820


 Highland Lynx cats..

Yoshi55, very nice cats. :) I’ve seen that breed and thought about it, but I can’t seem to pry myself away from the Serval and Caracal. I plan to put a deposit down on one of those species later this year. For some reason the typical generic domestic cat doesn’t appeal to me, but the challenge of one of these hybrid of exotic breeds seems very appealing especially after doing a couple of months of research. Do your cats headbutt you to show affection too?

Btw, your cats are classified by the USDA to be domestic. If someone gives you a problem about those cats, remember that federal law supersedes local laws, and the federal law specifically says hybrids of domestic and wild cats are domestic animals. Most smaller exotic cats like yours are regarded as domestic cats.

If you have the time and resources and there’s no non-breeding clause, you should definitely look at breeding these cats if it interests you. Breeding clauses are such a pain because of the dangers of spay/neutering, demand of purebred cats, and/or how much breeders tack on to get a share of the profits from breeding. Hybrids and wild/exotic cats are in very high demand these days. Savannah cats sell out months if not years ahead of when litters are born. If the breeder is international, these cats sell out years ahead of availability I’ve learned. Servals take deposits months or a year in advance of any litters. Bengals tend to be a little less sought after, but still fetch a good price and sell relatively quickly. I’m sure the same applies to your cat breed. You shouldn’t feel bad about it either. We have 60 million stray domestic cats in the USA but our shelters are importing tens of thousands of stray animals from foreign countries. The number of stray exotic cats is now 0 again since they caught the Serval that got loose in MI earlier this week. Unfortunately most people don’t realize all the smoke and mirrors behind owning exotic cats or the hyped up abandonment problem that doesn’t exist (ban laws without grandfather clauses do not count as abandonment).

Good luck with your cats!
04/04/08  10:38pm

 #1689834


Dragongirl6
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   Message To: Dragongirl6   In reference to Message Id: 1689811


 Highland Lynx cats..

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Breeding clauses are such a pain because of the dangers of spay/neutering


Spay/neutering is the safest procedure you could possibly have done to a cat. I work with a shelter who spays/neuters almost 2000 cats per year and we have never lost one! There is a reason for breeding clauses. Not just anyone should have a wild cat living in their house. It takes a lot of time and research to know what you are doing with them, and breeders want to make sure that the offspring of their cats aren’t ending up in bad situations or being bred over and over.

Spaying/neutering also prevents animals from getting testicular/ovarian/mammary cancer and greatly reduces the risk of UTIs and kidney problems in males.

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Hybrids and wild/exotic cats are in very high demand these days.


That is not why you should be breeding. You should breed because you love your animals, love the breed, and want to improve it. You should not breed just because people will buy the kittens.

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als take deposits months or a year in advance of any litters. Bengals tend to be a little less sought after, but still fetch a good price and sell relatively quickly.


That is disgusting! Animals should NOT be brought into this world because they "fetch a good price"! And I’m sure yoshi will agree with me! I know that if she decides to breed her kitties it will not be done lightheartedly or because she wants to make a lot of money. It will be because she appreciates the breed and wants the experience of raising the kittens and finding them really really good homes.

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We have 60 million stray domestic cats in the USA but our shelters are importing tens of thousands of stray animals from foreign countries.


Are you in the US? And where did you get those figures?

Yoshi, you should breed your cats if and when you are ready and want to, and I will totally back you up. I know that they will be well cared for and find good indoor homes where, hopefully, you will require spay/neuter contracts since they might not to as good a job as you with breeding.
04/04/08  10:50pm

 #1689908


Yoshi55
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   Message To: Yoshi55   In reference to Message Id: 1689811


 Highland Lynx cats..

Well that was a long talk about exotic breeds. I am very intrested in exotic breeds myself... but all cats are great to me! Just as I have stated b4, I have cats that I have adopted and they are great kittys! The lynx was introduced to me from my husband... he orginally wanted a cat in genral but found these breeds. So.. he got one. Saki the male is neutered.. that is how he came.. The breeder said it had to be that way. Laya, the female is not fixed.. she is much sweeter than Saki and yes, she head butts me when she wants attention. She is much like a normal breed of cat. Also, Saki does not head butt nor id he too loving BUT he lays on your chest at night and he is VERY vocal! So, he is different in his own way.

I love both my cats and wouldnt trade them for the world.. nor my adopted ones. We wanted to get Saki a friend and my husband said he wanted another lynx so we found one. She has had her issues with health and Saki has just gotten over a massive UTI.. with stronger breeds you have more problems with your animals.. thats the price you pay for these types though..and some people out there will do it!

Dragongirl... I understand where you are comming from but we love exotic pets and I plan to have more in the future. I do my research and I hate that homeless cats not of a specific breed are homeless...but if you look at some online things even about the most rarest cats and reptiles and any animal.... they are tortured EVERYDAY!! So, I feel that I have helped in some way..even though these cats came from a nice home...it’s sad to see that a demand can ruin a species or a breed. Even homeless animals are the same in that aspect.. we neglect b/c we dont want and that is abuse...or we want the rare breed so bad that we will do anything for them and abuse happens..see what I mean.. we are horrible people BUT the people that research in these things and help out like you, this guy and I are good people b/c he has said he has helped the homeless cats and you do rescue services.. I understand he might look at life and breeding and breeds a different way than you..but we all love animals and try to help them.

I hope I helped this, b/c like I have been saying in this thread.. I only wanted to show my cats to the world.. not cause a WW3!! LOL!! So.. I have a bunch of pics of my babies and I love all animals no breed hated... I just hate that we have to know that these special breeds are being abused for us to own... but like I said there are normal breeds being abused too, and no matter what breed we are getting all animals are being abused and we cant stop it. Just like peace on earth and the war... we can only make it better for our selves and our animals and plants... LIFE!



04/05/08  12:01am

 #1689914


Dragongirl6
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   Message To: Dragongirl6   In reference to Message Id: 1689908


 Highland Lynx cats..

Lol, wasn’t bashing you or your kitties yoshi. I was just suggesting that you will not be breeding them to "fetch a good price", but because you appreciate them.

If you ever do breed her, post pictures! They’ll be the cutest kittens ever.

Making money should not be the reason to breed any animal.
04/05/08  12:08am

 #1689922


DragonMyr
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   Message To: DragonMyr   In reference to Message Id: 1689834


 Highland Lynx cats..

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Spay/neutering is the safest procedure you could possibly have done to a cat. I work with a shelter who spays/neuters almost 2000 cats per year and we have never lost one!

That’s quite interesting because a vet managed to kill a white german shepard my family used to own when they neutered him. He went under and never came back. He was a year old. This was back in 1987. Perhaps spay/neuter processes have been improved since that time.

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Not just anyone should have a wild cat living in their house. It takes a lot of time and research to know what you are doing with them, and breeders want to make sure that the offspring of their cats aren’t ending up in bad situations or being bred over and over.

Most responsible animal owners would completely agree with you, and I’m one of them. Whenever I have an animal under my care, be it one I own or one I’m helping a friend with, I always do research on it to figure out how best to care for it.

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That is not why you should be breeding. You should breed because you love your animals, love the breed, and want to improve it. You should not breed just because people will buy the kittens.

Proliferating the breed is a valid way of showing compassion towards a particular breed and waiting to improve it. Increasing availability is an avenue of improvement. If you want to see more of a particular kind of animal, then help make it available and more people will come on board to purchase them. Furthermore, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with making some extra money on the side when you’re properly caring for and responsibly nurturing the mother cat and its offspring. I know you see it as unethical, but I do not. The more people who own exotic breeds of cats from responsible breeders, the better. Breeders tend to put teeth on their contracts these days because of all the mistakes made in the past that have contributed to the wild self-sustaining domestic cat populations.

You should not penalize people of today for mistakes made by people in the past. I have NEVER released any animal and have ALWAYS taken what my vets have called "superb" and "way better than average" care of my pets. I will not be penalized from owning the animals I have a passion for because some idiot irresponsible owner released their animal or contributed to the stray pet population.

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That is disgusting! Animals should NOT be brought into this world because they "fetch a good price"!

Animals are legally property. You find it disturbing but I find your point of view to be selfish. Demand on these animals is high and not enough breeders exist to meet that demand thus causing sometimes extreme waiting times just to get some breeds of animal, especially F1 and F2 Savannah cats in particular. Back in the early 1990’s my family bred pure golden retrievers and people were going nuts to buy one because we took good care of them and informed people about the best ways to take care of this particular breed as opposed to the generic dog. Just because all those stray mixed breeds exist out there doesn’t mean people want them or want to be penalized for the mistakes of irresponsible owners. We were going to do the same for a chocolate lab, but he’s been barred for being genetically tested to have canine hip dysplasia. I hope you realize that just because you don’t like it, there should be no impediment to responsible owners and breeders from breeding their own pets if people will actually buy them. Again, you should not be penalizing responsible people for the mistakes of irresponsible people.

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Are you in the US? And where did you get those figures?


Yes, I am on the east coast of the USA. Sources include, but are not limited to:

NAIA and NAIA Trust - Link
National Geographic and HSUS - Link
Link
Stray Pet Advocacy - Link
Responsible Exotic/Hybrid Pet Ownership - Link
Activist Cash - Link
Animal Scam - Link

I absolutely refuse to support shelters that import foreign animals or donate money to Political Action Committees masquerading around as animal charities. I’m sitting on plenty of cash should I wish to do so, but I’d rather put the effort into stepping up from reptiles into small and medium exotic cats.
04/05/08  12:17am

 #1689926


DragonMyr
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   Message To: DragonMyr   In reference to Message Id: 1689922


 Highland Lynx cats..

Ok, "fetch a good price" was a terrible choice of words and I apologize. Also, in my statement above, I failed to mention the distinction between good/responsible breeders and irresponsible ones. I know there’s a huge difference between having a family of 5 interacting and playing with puppies daily as compared to something like a puppy mill. Puppy mills should be eliminated in favor of compassionate private breeders. Hopefully that better explains my stance.
04/05/08  12:22am

 #1720524


Yoshi55
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   Message To: Turtlemom   In reference to Message Id: 1669471


 Highland Lynx cats..

Here guys, got some more pics of lil miss Laya! :)





04/29/08  07:32pm

 #1741795


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   Message To: Jakhi   In reference to Message Id: 1689922


 Highland Lynx cats..

Oh my! Your cats are amazing yoshi, i always love blue eyed cats!

I do also, however, have something to sy about the spay/neuter safety thing.

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That’s quite interesting because a vet managed to kill a white german shepard my family used to own when they neutered him. He went under and never came back. He was a year old. This was back in 1987. Perhaps spay/neuter processes have been improved since that time.



1. Of course the procedure has improved since then. They can do it with lazers now and it’s much safer. Also we’ve learned a lot about medicine for both people and animals since 1987.

2. It is a surgery. There will always be that 1% that doesn’t make it. I am sorry it was your dog but just because it happened once doesn’t mean that the entire procedure across america and canada is suspect.

3. Dogs can die because of an allergic reaction to anesthetic. It does happen occasionally. This might be what had happened to your dog. If your dog was allergic to the anesthetic then any surgery could have killed it. If the dog hadn’t been neutered and had lived, then had gotten cancer when the vet operated to remove the tumor the dog could have died...Does this mean we shouldn’t operate on cancer???

Sorry to rant a bit, but people need to understand that there are always some risks, but they really aren’t huge.

And, again, your cats are so beautiful!
05/20/08  09:14pm

 #1742174


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   Message To: Flamingflower   In reference to Message Id: 1741795


 Highland Lynx cats..

I completely agree with your views Dragongirl6. Proliferating a breed isn’t really a way to show compassion for a breed (unless, perhaps, if it is to better the breed itself.) I know that many breeds have or are prone to serious complications and diseases. Selective breeding may be able to help reduce these risks, in such cases. There are literally millions of adoptable, loving animals in need of homes. Animals like Golden Retrievers and Pit bulls (including the large community of cats,) who were once in high demand, eventually end up in shelters. As an example- some people love pit bulls. Breeding them is a good way to show compassion, as FutureBullyBreeder believes. Eventually, everyone can get one- including those who support dogfights, puppy mills who produce them, and others who wish to "help" or make profit by producing more of them. Out of the 9000 animals entering select animal shelters every year, only 1000 get adopted. If I had a breed I loved, I would not want to add them to the cycle of unwanted pets. And if you know many are being abused for production, why support it? To produce animals so that every one seeking to own one can get them quickly is the same as doing the business of puppy mills, and although the conditions would probably be considerably better, the sequence eventually backfires. Certain animals are not for everyone; indeed, all animals are suited to different groups of individuals. And for those that love unique or wild breeds of cat... waiting in line shouldn’t be a problem.

Also, vet technology had improved greatly since 1987, which is one of the reasons why spaying/neutering should be supported. It eliminates the risk of mammary, ovarian, and testicular cancer ( as well as preventing accidental breeding or "unwanted" behavior such as attempting to mate with foreign or inanimate objects and wandering.) AS said before, there is always the risk of complications during any operation or surgery, including breeding.
~ your cats are beautiful, but not for everyone.



05/21/08  10:19am

 #1752507


Yoshi55
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   Message To: Yoshi55   In reference to Message Id: 1742174


 Highland Lynx cats..

Well I havent been on this cat forum in a while.. but I just want to clarify that MY breed is NOT being abused or bred wrongly for the sake of people wanting more. There are freakin wild elephants being killed for ivory and we dont "breed" them. They are natrual. I love my cats and just wanted to show everyone them. I havent heard of many people having this certain breed. It’s not just a highland lynx. There are other breeds in them.

And the spay and neuter issue is not my issue! I dont know how this thread got bombarted with this crap! Honestly, I will get Laya spayed when I have the extra money. She has been through 2 heat cycles already here in just a month. We have her inside and she has not tried to escape and we have no other "stray" or unwanted cats around that will make "unwanted" cats. I cant believe some of the people saying that stuff. I would never let my cat get pregnant and then give the freakin kittens to a shelter. I would make sure their homes are nice. I adopted a cat from a trailer park back in the 90’s and I still have her and love her just as much as these cats that are expensive. Love doesnt mean it has to cost money! So, please... if you have nothing to say possitive about my cats..dont post on here. Thanks...



06/02/08  06:48pm

 #1754855


Dragongirl6
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   Message To: Dragongirl6   In reference to Message Id: 1752507


 Highland Lynx cats..

Lol. It’s funny to see that this post is still going.

If I never mentioned it Lauren, your cats are beautiful!! No one is suggesting that YOU will be irresponsible with them. Just that other people are not as good as you lol.

I hope she is doing well and I am sure she is very happy with you! So, have you popped out that baby yet?
06/08/08  03:03am

 #1759387


Yoshi55
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   Message To: Yoshi55   In reference to Message Id: 1754855


 Highland Lynx cats..

Laya is very happy with us! She made a great friend.. her lil man Saki. They always chase eachother around the house and she is in heat sodang.. that is another story. But dont worry as stated above.. she isnt an outside cat..cant get out..doesnt want out..and doesnt even understand what she is going through! She is too cute though! Saki loves her dearly! As do I!

And no.. this child is STILL in me! I am overdue girl! They want to induce me next Friday..which is my b-day and I dont want that happening!! I just dont want to push a baby out on my b-day! I’ll wait another dayor 2 lol!
06/12/08  11:35pm

 #1759449


Dragongirl6
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   Message To: Dragongirl6   In reference to Message Id: 1759387


 Highland Lynx cats..

Lol. Exactly. The baby will come when he’s ready, I wouldn’t worry : ) Enjoy your birthday instead. Now that I’ve said that I bet he’ll decide to pop out on your birthday.

I think I was three weeks late? I was a big baby



06/13/08  12:47am

 #1760106


Yoshi55
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   Message To: Yoshi55   In reference to Message Id: 1759449


 Highland Lynx cats..

Wow! 3 weeks late! Girl I’m not waiting 3 weeks your crazy! If he doesnt come this weekend of this upcoming week..then when my next appt is.. thursday..then I’m gonna tell them.. I dont want to have him on my b-day so could we do it that day? Or maybe the following monday!?

I just wish I didnt have to "plan" this birth! I wanted to do this on my own not by being induced! Was your mom induced or what?
06/13/08  06:45pm

 #1760411


Dragongirl6
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   Message To: Dragongirl6   In reference to Message Id: 1760106


 Highland Lynx cats..

Nope. My family’s the same way, induced/"planned" pregnancies are weird and not as healthy as natural births. The baby generally knows best when he’s ready.

The doctors kept telling her to induce but she refused lol. Here I am, 16 years later. I guess I turned out ok : )
06/14/08  12:47am
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