Yes, you are allowed to have your own opinion and to disagree, but please don’t try to pass off your opinion as the law.

The minimum enclosure size for corns is debatable. Many hobbyists, myself included, feel that housing an adult corn in anything smaller than a 40 gallon long is inhumane.

You yourself acknowledge that not all breeders share the same views as the ones you side with.

Why are we disagreeing with you? For the same reason that you are disagreeing with us. We feel that you are wrong.

a 20gal would be way to small...most 20L are about 24in long.

5f is 60in...24 is not 2/3 of 60

The tank at MINIMUM needs to be 2/3 of the snake length.

And is 1/2 equal to 2/3? No, so that’s pointless!

All this is, is rambling on and on about whether somebody is humane or not, and personally I can care less anymore.

This tank was free...

(This means me and all the other breeders I listed above) are not only "Wrong" but that we’re "Cruel" and "Inhumane" to our animals!!!

From Don Soderberg’s website and his book:

"When they are adults the cage length should be approximately 1/2 the length of the snake. A 15 or 20 gallon aquarium with a locking lid is adequate space for an adult corn."

And I didn’t accuse anybody of being inhumane, check the posts.

The bottom line is that I feel that keeping an adult corn snake in anything as small as a 20 gallon (and definitely a 15 gallon!!) is cruel and inhumane. Yes, of course buying something larger will cost you more money. But if you can’t afford to give your animals adequate living space, then you don’t have any business keeping them, much less breeding them! This goes for breeders of all kinds of animals, and yes, it includes the people you have referenced and quoted.

I just don’t like what he/she is doing! a 72" snake in a 30" long tank, and what wa it? 15" tall!!!

So if you said 2+2=5 and I said you’re wrong, I’d be immature?

And You Always Thought the Answer was Four!
One of my favorite quotes is "Two plus two equals five for extremely large values of two." If you know me, you know that I love silly quotes like this. Another one of my favorites is "There are three kinds of people: those who can count and those who can’t."

I asked about how "two plus two could equal five for extremely large values of two," and I got an answer that made a lot of sense. Little did I know that this phrase probably originated from something that probably is simply from computer programming.

Anybody who has ever used a calculator that is at least as a fancy as a simply scientific calculator knows that decimal places can be fixed.

However, when these things are put into a calculator or a computer program, the way they register can be quite different.

Sometimes the numbers are rounded and then the total of the numbers are added. Other times a total is added and then an answer is given and the decimal place is rounded. So, they are not truly extremely large values of two, but the original number may be 2.3.

If the original number is 2.3, this is what happens in those two cases.

When 2.3 and 2.3 are added together, the answer is 4.6. If decimal place is set to 0 decimal places, things change. As most people know 2.3 rounds to 2. If the number were 2.5, it would round to 3.

So, with all the numbers being rounded before a total is given, the equation then becomes 2 plus 2. "Two plus two equals four," which obviously does not match the first silly statement.

However, the other scenario still exists. Rather than having each number rounded when put into the problem, the entire equation is added. So, 2.3 and 2.3 equals 4.6. When 4.6 is rounded to a number with no decimal places, it becomes 5 because the number behind the decimal is 5 or larger.

Even though the decimal places are not gone while the operation is being performed, if the numbers are shown, it is not going to show "2.3," bur rather, will show "2."

So, the equation will, indeed, read "2+2=5."

Here is what is Recomended:

10 gallon for hatchling/baby Corn
20 gallon for sub adult/2-3 ft long
30 gallon enclosures would be sufficient for an Adult


A 10 gallon Tank would be sufficient for a baby/hatchling,
and depending on how Small, a 5 gallon would work as well.

A 20 gallon would be sufficient for a sub adult/mid-size Corn Snake...
giving it more space, but not too much.

A 30 gallon is sufficient for a full grown Corn Snake, for life time.
Some prefer bigger, when they are full grown, but not required.

The smaller the Snake, the smaller the Enclosure should be...
Especially with hatchlings/babies!

Too Much space Can cause Stress, leading to other issues,
such as Not feeding, etc.

The General Rule is the enclosure should be 2/3 the length of the snake.

Like, when the time comes for a 20 gal Tank... standard size may be better,
as Corns like to climb, some don’t, mine didn’t, some like to burrow more than climbing.

And own 39 corn snakes with another 50+ eggs incubating. And all but two of my snakes are housed in the rack systems.

One bedroom apartment