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Big Slick Serpents View Profile |
Message To: Big Slick Serpents In reference to Message Id: 2010489 Too big for a corn?
Quote: Well, a 15gal tank is not a 30gal, that’s why. Chuck said a 15gal is ok. You’re saying 30gal, which is agreeable... Please, Please, Please...Show me where I said a 15-Gallon is the right size for an adult corn!?!?!
I challenge you to show where I ever said this!!! I did say that a 20-Gallon Long would be sufficient! But understand that a 20-Gallon Long has more floor-space than a regular 20-Gallon! Again...Get your facts straight please! *********************** To EvilTrailMix... Quote: I understand that everyone has their own opinion, and I mean no offense to anyone. Obvious not true! The evidence of this was when you accused me of being cruel and inhumane to my animals. I take excellent care of every animal in my possession.
Quote: You seriously need to chill out and lay off with the personal insults. It really doesn’t help your credibility. Well look at the Pot calling the Kettle Black!!!
You have a lot of nerve! I was keeping it "Chill" until you accused me and many other breeders of being CRIMINALS!!! Being cruel, abusive and inhumane to animals can land a person in jail with hefty fines! So don’t go telling ME to chill when you were the one to throw the first freakin stone!!! |
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| 05/25/09 12:56am |
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Reflex View Profile |
Message To: Reflex In reference to Message Id: 2010633 Too big for a corn?
LMAO |
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| 05/25/09 01:53am |
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Jelly_shrimp View Profile |
Message To: Jelly_shrimp In reference to Message Id: 2010652 Too big for a corn?
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| 05/25/09 02:26pm |
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EvilTrailMix View Profile |
Message To: EvilTrailMix In reference to Message Id: 2010633 Too big for a corn?
I said that people who kept their snakes in tanks that were too small were cruel. Too small being an adult corn in a 20 gallon, or any tank half the length of the snake’s body. Yes, this obviously includes you and everyone else who does this. However, this is my opinion, and not a personal attack about your mental state or drug use. Sorry if you can’t see the difference. I know he’s the only one who has used a reference, and I wasn’t discrediting the reference. (Even though I disagree with it) I was referring to his overly emotional posts and personal attacks. This type of behavior takes away from any knowledge or cited backup. It just doesn’t beget confidence in the poster. Anyway, this really is ridiculous. This clearly isn’t going anywhere, and we’ve both made our points, so I’m done. |
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| 05/25/09 02:39pm |
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Jelly_shrimp View Profile |
Message To: Jelly_shrimp In reference to Message Id: 2010851
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| 05/25/09 02:42pm |
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Jelly_shrimp View Profile |
Message To: Jelly_shrimp In reference to Message Id: 2010853
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| 05/28/09 11:42am |
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Pythonking View Profile |
Message To: Pythonking In reference to Message Id: 2012441 Too big for a corn?
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| 05/29/09 09:52pm |
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Reflex View Profile |
Message To: Reflex In reference to Message Id: 2013293 Too big for a corn?
A lot of actual hobbyists agree with Chuck. (IMHO, if you own one or two snakes you’re not a "hobbyist", that’s like saying your kid’s hobby is beading when she’s only done a bracelet or two) I have only ever bred leopard geckos (and that was only once), and have quite a few animals, not to mention I rescue them as well. I don’t breed corn snakes, but when I have them I keep them as Chuck does (Only I’m not as awesome and don’t have a rack like he does LOL). |
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| 05/29/09 10:16pm |
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Big Slick Serpents View Profile |
Message To: Big Slick Serpents In reference to Message Id: 2013302 Too big for a corn?
Quote: I don’t breed corn snakes, but when I have them I keep them as Chuck does (Only I’m not as awesome and don’t have a rack like he does LOL). You make it sounds like I have "Big Bobs"!?!
For the record (for those who may not know)...I’m a guy! And no "man-boobs" either! LOL!!! ******************** I have multiple Corn Snakes, Milk Snakes, Hognose Snakes, Ball Pythons, Red-Tail Boas, Brazilian Rainbow Boas and soon King Snakes (again)! For all 60(ish) of these...I needed a method of efficient organization that provides the proper heat, humidity and necessary space. This is why I chose a rack system. I’m probably going to be moving the Boas into much larger display cages soon...but right now I have many other project in front of building those. |
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| 05/30/09 12:45am |
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Travisss View Profile |
Message To: Travisss In reference to Message Id: 2013357 Too big for a corn?
Just for the record...I have come across 4 snakes with respiratory infections in my travels...2 were severe and the snakes died...2 were treatable with vet bills and antibiotics and injections...all 4 snakes were kept by people with good intentions but ALL WERE KEPT IN GLASS TANKS! they are hard to clean, and even harder to regulate ambient temps....my point is...give reptiles what they need, heat , food, frequent handling in appropiate temps and keep thier home clean and they will tolerate you better...but who is being cruel and inhumane? the person who has their pet in a "One bedroom Apartment" OR the one who keeps them in a drafty cold "mansion" to wander around freezing thier asses off, only to eventually make a trip to the vet for a "6 pack" of Baytril injections due to a severe RI. If you put a snake in a huge room with a heat source...where would it spend most of its time?...the little spot with the heat likely? We(most of us) know that heat and temps are critical to keep snakes healthy...so why would we keep them in a home where we can’t maintain those elements?..I wouldnt I had Tanks before and I had to work "hard" to keep temps and Humidity...If you want to work hard which I assume you don’t...give ’em a big tank...go ahead...Just make sure you learn what the dosages for Baytril are and how to mix it with injectable saline so it won’t cause necrosis at the injection site...It is a Challenge giving a snake an injection...You seem like you are up for a challenge... Some people are very sensitive I have noticed...I really like the multiple afterthought posts...sounds like a little kid ..."And you did it too...cuz ...your a ....ummm....umm...doo doo head..you big meany"... Get your facts together, then go back read them again and then attack Chuck, because you better get your together if you are gonna argue snakes with him...he is a respected keeper and has helped many uneducated keepers such as yourselves keep their snakes healthy...or get them back to health. Good luck with your education..You will need it seeing as you are giving us no Idea where you form your opinions from(Chuck had given us many sources of info)..Cheers...Trav |
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| 05/30/09 05:52am |
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Jelly_shrimp View Profile |
Message To: Jelly_shrimp In reference to Message Id: 2013412
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| 05/30/09 11:39am |
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Jelly_shrimp View Profile |
Message To: Jelly_shrimp In reference to Message Id: 2013527
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| 05/30/09 11:46am |
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Reflex View Profile |
Message To: Reflex In reference to Message Id: 2013530 Too big for a corn?
Quote: I’ve gotten my info from books I got at our local library.
98% of reptile care books at libraries are outdated and inaccurate. Worse than going to wikipedia lol. |
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| 05/30/09 01:31pm |
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Jelly_shrimp View Profile |
Message To: Jelly_shrimp In reference to Message Id: 2013565
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| 05/30/09 04:18pm |
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Aandfsoccr04 View Profile |
Message To: Aandfsoccr04 In reference to Message Id: 2013641 Too big for a corn?
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| 05/30/09 11:30pm |
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Big Slick Serpents View Profile |
Message To: Big Slick Serpents In reference to Message Id: 2013530 Too big for a corn?
Quote: since I can’t get a corn anyway... You mean to tell me that you’re basing your "Knowledge" on outdated books that Daddy brings home from the library...
And you don’t even own a cornsnake!?!?!? But you’re going to tell me that what I’m doing is wrong and that you’re right! LOL...I’ve been keeping reptiles longer than you’ve been ALIVE kid!!! And you’re preaching to me?!? Quote: Would you keep something 60-72in long a 15gal tank? No...I wouldn’t. And I never said I would. (And you have yet to show me where I said that.)
In closing.... Hahahahahahahaha......Hahahahahahahahahahaha.... (Me laughing AT you!)  |
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| 05/31/09 01:01am |
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Repfanatic View Profile |
Message To: Repfanatic In reference to Message Id: 2013856 Too big for a corn?
Quote: On Don Soderberg’s caresheet on his website (and in his very popular and very accurate book)...Don writes the following:
"When they are adults the cage length should be approximately 1/2 the length of the snake. A 15 or 20 gallon aquarium with a locking lid is adequate space for an adult corn." THERE! Proof given. And yes it does say 15 OR 20, but it does say 15. Now, can you people stop the ridiculous, childish arguing? Nobody is going to see anybody else’s point, so why bother posting the SAME info 50 times over? And don’t even bother trying to say it’s not childish. Quote: Hahahahahahahaha......Hahahahahahahahahahaha....
(Me laughing AT you!) And that’s just the most recent example. Do you seriously think anybody is learning from this thread anymore other than there are people on this forum that will beat a dead horse until the coyotes come?  |
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| 05/31/09 01:23am |
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Jelly_shrimp View Profile |
Message To: Jelly_shrimp In reference to Message Id: 2013865
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| 06/03/09 10:39pm |
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Jelly_shrimp View Profile |
Message To: Jelly_shrimp In reference to Message Id: 2016018
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| 06/03/09 10:41pm |
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Jelly_shrimp View Profile |
Message To: Jelly_shrimp In reference to Message Id: 2016019
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| 06/04/09 12:01am |
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Marg View Profile |
Message To: Marg In reference to Message Id: 2016068 Too big for a corn?
Quote: is there a way to block or "mute" certain users? Don’t read what they post?
Don’t reply back? *shrug* sounds simple to me |
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| 06/04/09 12:22am |
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Big Slick Serpents View Profile |
Message To: Big Slick Serpents In reference to Message Id: 2016081 Too big for a corn?
Or you could just take Marg’s advice!?! Or you could just get use to disappointment!?! 
I really don’t care! (BTW...Nobody believes that you did over 500-hours of research within 2 months time. BS!!) |
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| 06/04/09 03:21am |
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Jelly_shrimp View Profile |
Message To: Jelly_shrimp In reference to Message Id: 2016109
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| 06/05/09 05:35pm |
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Travisss View Profile |
Message To: Travisss In reference to Message Id: 2016923 Too big for a corn?
Quote: Believe what you want, I have the grades to prove it (I neglected my school work unfortunately) I did this because I want to a carrier in herpetology
Wow...I’d hire you!...lol...but not for anything to do with grammar or spelling ...that’s all...lol..cuz I likes you a lot!...Hmmmm a ’carrier’ in herpetology eh?....I see carrying something ....a shovel and pail perhaps?...lol...just kidding..... |
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| 06/07/09 04:33pm |
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Jelly_shrimp View Profile |
Message To: Jelly_shrimp In reference to Message Id: 2017958
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| 06/10/09 01:41pm |
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Fairy Frog Mother View Profile |
Message To: Fairy Frog Mother In reference to Message Id: 2019736 Too big for a corn?
My two cents. With sufficient heating and hides, a large vivarium can be an excelent habitat. It is alot more work to clean. I have very naturalistic set ups. Once a month everything comes out and gets washed out, sprayed down, rinsed and replaced. For two snake enclosures, its work but doable. Its alot of fun to look at. Its also a pain to get out the snakes for handling. For anyone with a large collection, it would be insane. It is not necessary to keep them this way. It will not hurt them either so long as they get regular water changes and enclosure cleanings to keep the bacteria from building up. All snakes need to feel secure. Tubs in racks are like little personal caves where they arent bothered much and all their basic needs are met. What I find interesting is everyone seems to agree with that, yet because of misintrepretations people got all freaked out. *waves hands in the air in a freaked out manner* Ive got two boas, about to babysit 3 corns for the summer...and you know what...I still honestly beleive the best place for a snake is in that HUGE area of space called...the wild. I also beleive, the more we get to know about them, and edumacate youngins on their vital place in the ecosystem, the more chance of their being wild places in the future for them to live in. |
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