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#1559797

Arkon
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Message To: Sidbarvin In reference to Message Id: 1559226

More For The Young-ins Wanting Large Monitors.

Hey Roger,VERY GOOD POST, the thing I find funny is the "Kids" that say I know what I got myself into and so do my parents!!!!!!!!!!! I say BS, when me, my brothers or my friends were young-ins and brought home a reptile, my parents and their parents were fine as long as it fit into one of the 10 gallon tanks we had and was able to stay in that tank!!!LOL

Some want to give a few of these kids the benefit of the doubt and say, " wow he/she really sounds sincere, their parents must be involved, this kid is the exception to the rule", well in reality he/she is not and have been Reading this forum and others (which is a good thing, reading that is) enough to manipulate a few into believing they have everything under control or are able to "PROPERLY CARE FOR" an adult "ADVANCED SPECIES OF REPTILE.

When "MOST" parents see a baby monitor that is very small monitor, they have no Idea how large these animals get and that It is going to cost them as much to feed their "child’s" new acquisition as It cost to feed their own son/daughter a month. For instance, I have seen pics of large adult water monitors that would take 2-3 grown men/women to manage and these young kids think they can "TAME", "FEED", "ALSO DID I SAY FEED" and handle them one day when the monitor reaches adulthood!!!!!!!!!!!LOL, LOL, LOL, EVEN LOUDER LOL!!!!!!!!!!

The worst part about this is the animal suffers greatly, An adult Water, Argus, Nile, Croc and many other species take $100’s a month and constant daily monitoring to make sure it is eating and it’s husbandry is consistent!!!!!!!!!!!

My all time favorite has to be that "My Dad" is really the one who wanted this lizard though and I am just helping, "WELL WHERE IS HE"? If that is the case, AWESOME but that more than likely is just a quick thought out hopefully to help detract from the real issue/perceived attack comment!!!!!!!!

How can I say all these things, well when I was a young-in I would have and did say the same exact things!!!!!!! In reality these kids and their monitors are doing nothing more than learning how to do better with the next monitor because the one they have now is doomed. I say this NOT BECAUSE LACK OF HOPE, DEDICATION OR WANT TO TAKE CARE OF AND HAVE THESE MONITOR’S PROSPER but because of a lack of resources, mainly "MONEY", "THEIR OWN MONEY" to keep these animals going!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! For you OLDER keepers, what would your parents have said if you needed at minimum $1200 a year TO KEEP YOUR MONITORS FED?????????

Last but not least, the comment well everyone has to start somewhere is just a shortcut to actual thinking!!!!!!!! While everyone does have to start somewhere, when you first get your License, does that mean you get a Ford expedition that is difficult to drive, impossible to parallel park and the biggest gas guzzler of all vehicles. No, absolutely not, you start with a ford escort or the like and no truly informed and participating parent would make a poor choice like that, "IF TRULY INFORMED"!!!!!!!!!

My point, well since this may be on deaf ears there is no point, these kids are going to do what they want and 99 percent of their parents have no Idea but only that it currently fits in a 10 gallon tank. What parent is going to actually say yes son or daughter it is fine that we spend $1000+ dollars to refinish the basement for your monitor lizard and I will take care of the $100+ DOLLARS A MONTH to feed your monitor and by the way that extra large electricity bill and water bill from changing that baby pool twice a day is just fine!!!! LOL, LOL, LOL

I re-read my post about 4 times and thought maybe it was a little harsh but you young-ins are going to and are taking over the hobby/industry and need to realize that keeping a species that you cannot 100% care for on your own and provide for on your own, is not a good idea or RIGHT!!!! Monitors are fascinating but are probably the most demanding and high maintenance animal you can own. Now if any of you young-ins are anything like me when I was young, you will probably discard everything I have said and go right out and get yourself a 50 gallon tank and a Savannah/Nile monitor!!!!!!!!!

Well good luck and I hope you can learn quick and provide for your monitor, I sincerely and truly do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

O’Well, Jason

12/29/07 02:22am

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Sidbarvin
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Message To: Sidbarvin In reference to Message Id: 1559797

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Yes, there really is no accountability here on these fora. The youngsters and even worse some adults, can paint any picture they wish in order to save face. It’s odd how they are somehow detached from reality here on the internet. Many times it is reflected in the daily life as well. There is not much accountability in general amongst kids these days. They actually become highly offended when they are questioned and presented with valid, realistic advice and observations. Well, what happens when junior decides he’d rather be out with his friends or spend the weekend with his girl rather than clean smelly crap water or remove big nasty turds from the cage. The cage begins to reek and mommy and daddy tell junior to say bye-bye to monitor. It’s also a reflection of how disconnected people in general are when living things have become disposable.

12/29/07 02:53am

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KRoCc
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Message To: KRoCc In reference to Message Id: 1559833

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all i can say is listen to the guy. for all the youngsters. i was just like you when i came to this forum. and the advice i was given from roger and shay and chad and warren. i soaked it up like a sponge and now i know 10 times as much about proper varanid husbandry than before. also tough me PATIENCE

Felipe

12/29/07 03:17am

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Sidbarvin
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Message To: Sidbarvin In reference to Message Id: 1559847

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So whats it gonna be Felipe, ackies or timors?

12/29/07 03:20am

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Message To: Savannah monitor 4 In reference to Message Id: 1533950