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 #2043614


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  Message To: Scorpion-Newbie   In reference to Message Id: 2043506


 Thinking of getting emperor scorpion, but i know nothing!

I got 8 in the pack, about 6 of them are massive and yellow, 5 now lol, one is like you described, more brown, and one is considerably smaller than the rest.

Also didnt mention the one i chose to feed was one of the big ones in there, if not the biggest, shes just come out her hide now actually, ive shined a light in there and theres no trance of any remains so i think she gobbled it all! but she has been in there the past 4 hours and every so often when ive checked shes been eating it, so must of been hungry, is it normal for them to eat all of a locust/cricket and leave no remains at all?

Also i didnt mention the one i picked was the only one in the pack without the backlegs that make them able to hop, all the rest do lol, and nope no massive wings, and yeah probably specially bred, they sell out of locust pretty quick down there! they got 100 boxes in yesterday, i got one of the 4 left, so seem pretty popular lol.

Its now 3am thursday morning, the locust was fairly big, so maybe i should leave it 2/3 days before next feeding? I bought 2 ecoearth cocoa fibre bricks, i will try add them in sometime soon



07/22/09  09:00pm

 #2043732


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 Thinking of getting emperor scorpion, but i know nothing!

Yeah, it’s normal for them to eat all of it, especially when they’re hungry. Usually the ones that are fed already don’t eat it all though.
Locusts are pretty large prey, so it’s likely you’ll find bits of wings and pieces here and there, which is what my scorpions have done lol. They’ve made a pretty good mess, but the little pill bugs or "rollie pollies" i have in there are good at cleaning up the leftovers. Which reminds me, if you’re able to find rolly pollies, throw them into the tank. They’ll serve as your tank’s cleanup crew against little pieces of leftover food.

Well, usually scorpions will wait a week or two after such a large meal, so i’d try maybe a week later to keep it from becoming a fatty lol
Awesome, you’ll notice how much cleaner and better looking the tank will be once you add the coco fiber. It’s a good contrast against the drift wood too.



07/23/09  01:10am

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 Thinking of getting emperor scorpion, but i know nothing!

Oh right, in england we call them woodlouse, yeah i could easily find them maybe even around my house ive seen a few lol, the scorpion wont be too bothered by it? And they wont snack on him/her like crickets i take it?

And yeah when i put the cocoa fibre in it should be more appealing i would imagen, im not a big fan of the substrate in there atm so will probably just take it out, it gets dry way too easy



07/23/09  08:16am

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 Thinking of getting emperor scorpion, but i know nothing!

On the side it says to put it in a bucket with 3/4 litres of water, so what is this just some sort of magic where i put the brick in and put the water on and it just absorbs and expands? lol



07/23/09  12:03pm

 #2044093


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 Thinking of getting emperor scorpion, but i know nothing!

No, the scorps wont be bothered by it, don’t worry about em

Yeah, it’s good you’re changing it all out then. Emps need a really high humidity %. What you can do w/ the old substrate is mix it in with the new one. Just so you don’t waste it and throw it all away.

Yeah, it’s magical lol. Just add water! lol



07/23/09  03:55pm

 #2044137


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 Thinking of getting emperor scorpion, but i know nothing!

Yeah it usually stays high 60’s at day time, cause its a fishtank it has that flappy bit at the top you can open to pour the food in, i usually leave that open at night and it drops to about 60/62, which seems ok unless you think otherwise?

And yeah maybe, i dunno ill see how the coca fibre comes out, i might just move the hair stuff off the top over into one of the corners and put it all on one bit, or spread it around over the cocoa fibre so its not so thick, ill figure something out lol



07/23/09  05:45pm

 #2044271


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 Thinking of getting emperor scorpion, but i know nothing!

Yeah, high 60s is good. This is cuz on the ground, where the scorp is, the humidity is higher since the hygrometer is placed above, giving it a less accurate reading. You don’t have to leave it open at night, it’s better to just leave it closed. But since your substrate right now is not good at holding moisture, i’d make sure it’s moist to the touch.

I think I would leave the old fiber underneath the new substrate. I don’t think it’d look nice to mix it in w/ the new substrate or have it push to a corner. I wouldn’t want to throw it away either, so leaving it at the bottom isn’t that bad an idea.



07/23/09  09:30pm

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 Thinking of getting emperor scorpion, but i know nothing!

Yeah that sounds about right cause the hygrometer is in the top corner, ill keep that in mind, and oh right ok ill leave it closed from now on then lol, i just thought it would help to let the temperature drop. It is slightly moist to the touch, i added some water in there just now also.

And well yeah ill just add the cocoa fibre on the top then, dont wanna raise the substrate so far up that she can get out the holes in the top though lol, i have 2 massive holes on each side shown in one of my photos



07/24/09  08:32am

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 Thinking of getting emperor scorpion, but i know nothing!

It’s ok to leave it closed, they like the high temperatures anyways.

Don’t worry, your tank is pretty large and high, so adding just two bricks of coco fiber won’t raise it enough for it to get out.



07/24/09  03:31pm

 #2044730


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 Thinking of getting emperor scorpion, but i know nothing!

Also i have noticed loads of tiny little white bugs crawling over my scorpion, is that normal?



07/24/09  05:29pm

 #2044735


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 Thinking of getting emperor scorpion, but i know nothing!

hmm, that can be good or bad. Are they directly over your scorpion and in between the joints? those can be bad predatory mites. If you can, take a close up picture of it. Sometimes they’re small crickets too, but that seems like mites to me. There are also good mites that eat up the parasitic ones.



07/24/09  05:41pm

 #2044925


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 Thinking of getting emperor scorpion, but i know nothing!

Btw, if they’re the bad mites on the joints of the scorp, get a cotton swab, dab it in some vaseline and swipe it on the mites. This will kill them. People usually change the entire substrate out too. Others isolate the scorpion into a container and place a small water dish in it too. The mites will need water, leaving the scorp and hopefully drown in the water dish. If you decide to do this, don’t make the container moist.



07/25/09  01:37am

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 Thinking of getting emperor scorpion, but i know nothing!

My girlfriend noticed that the insects crawling over my scorpion have come from the piece of bark that he/she sleeps in, ive took the scorpion out, seems to have none over him/her atm? But they seem to infest this bit of wood, what should i do about it? chuck the bit of wood and all the substrate out? advise please.



07/25/09  11:41am

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 Thinking of getting emperor scorpion, but i know nothing!

well, you can put the piece of wood in the oven and bake it at 350 degrees F for like 30 mins to kill them all. The substrate you were about to replace anyways, so it would be a good idea to either bake the substrate or throw it all away. I would consider baking the hide and the substrate. It won’t catch on fire, takes more heat for spontaneous combustion, so no worries. You can cover it with foil though since the stuff can get a little crispy on top.

Well, if they’re not on the scorpion, that’s a good sign that they’re not feeding off of it in some way. So when you take out all of the stuff, clean the tank too if you can. Don’t use soap though.



07/25/09  12:31pm

 #2045154


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 Thinking of getting emperor scorpion, but i know nothing!

Ok well i already sorted it out in my own way before you replied sorry lol, i took out the scorpion and put in the tub, no lice things on him/her. I looked on the log it has made it home, there all over it, so i decided in the end to just chuck it to be safe. Also i rearranged the tank abit turning the massive log round sideways and adding a brick of cocoa fibre just straight over the top of the old substrate, it seems alot more active now aswell.

I have uploaded a picture, tell me what you think:

http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/scorpion-newbie/DSC00240-1.jpg



07/25/09  02:14pm

 #2045239


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 Thinking of getting emperor scorpion, but i know nothing!

cool, looks good to me



07/25/09  05:46pm

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 Thinking of getting emperor scorpion, but i know nothing!

Thanks lol, seems to be happier now actually, and the scorpion is alot more easier to spot aswell, and your right is does look better lol.

It seems happy now the massive log is its new home, seems more comfortable with it than the little piece it used to have.

Also i know or atleast i hear that handling scorpions is not fully recommended especially one like mine only a year old but last night i just couldnt resist, i just wanted to know how it felt, sort of one of those overcoming a fear thing, and it felt good one i had, feel alot more comfortable now, starting to realise scorpions are misunderstood abit, seems most people think they will sting you for nothing, in my opinion if mine stung me it would be completly my fault, a mistake on my part. Starting to understand more so is good :D

And yeah felt alot better after i held him/her (still need to work out which, not sure if it needs to be a certain age before i can tell or what) felt like tiny drawing pins walking across my hands, i kept putting one hand infront of the other, kept running foward, then it started speeding up proper sprinting, not sure why, it might of been wondering why its running but not going anywhere lol



07/26/09  01:34am

 #2045447


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 Thinking of getting emperor scorpion, but i know nothing!

lol ya, the coco fiber really does give it a clean look and has a good texture to it. Ya, I would think it’d be happier too, since the coco fiber retains moisture well and raises the humidity.

Yeah, it’s not recommended but hell, I’ve never met anyone who hasn’t handled their scorps at least once lol. I’ve handled mine before too, just to feel their armored bodies. It was a pretty cool experience, they’re freaking awesome and impressive to handle. I was scared at first, didn’t know how the scorpion would react, but it was pretty calm and crawled slowly over my hands. I did the same thing you did, just placed my hand in front of the other so it could walk. I’m sure they start scurrying because they’re scared at why the ground is moving and the colors around, like the light color of your hands. The scorpion is also very sensitive to vibrations, so even breathing on it will get it tensed up.

Yeah lol, they wouldn’t sting you unless you were doing something stupid lol. Scorpions have been greatly misunderstood, all you see on t.v and the movies is how they’re nasty creepy crawlies that will kill you with one sting. Movies like the Scorpion King had emperors living in desert areas lol when they’re actually a tropical species.



07/26/09  02:48am

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 Thinking of getting emperor scorpion, but i know nothing!

Yeah the cocoa fibre is good, bad news though, them mite things or whatever they are are still on my scorpion, i done what you said and put him in the dry container he came in with a bottlelid of water, is that ok?

I dunno what i should do now then, my mum says she aint letting me no where near the oven lol, so maybe i should just take out all the substrate lol, should i just take all the substrate and use the other brick of coco fibre? Im pretty sure it would be safe to salvage some of the coco fibre in there?

I need to find out what these things are, i tried to take closeup pictures but the camera quality is bad, cant even see them.

There small tiny white things, ive only seen one on him/her so far. I dont think i would get anywhere near the scorpion with a swob, actually stung the container when i tried to get him/her in there lol, wild caught so i guess it takes some getting used to being in a see through enclosure/box.

But yeah when i got him/her out, was in the plastic box and i opened the lid and it was on the side of the box, so i tipped it sideways so it could just walk out onto my hand, sort of looked out, placed its pincer on my hand, stood still for like 5 seconds, put 1 leg on my hand, stood still again, then just walked out into the palm of my hand, stood still again, then started walking lol.

How long should i leave it in the box for? Is a bottlelid of water okay?



07/26/09  08:50am

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 Thinking of getting emperor scorpion, but i know nothing!

Ok well i took him out the tub and put him/her back in the enclosure, was worried cause was acting weird, constantly going into attack position over nothing, so put back in. Good news though, found 2 of those little lice things drowned in the bottle lid.



07/26/09  12:09pm

 #2045687


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 Thinking of getting emperor scorpion, but i know nothing!

ya, the bottle cap is good. So far they don’t seem like the bad mites if they’re not grabbing onto the scorpion, especially in between the leg joints. I have some tiny mites in one of scorpion enclosures too, but they don’t seem to be harming my scorpion, so I think yours aren’t the harmful kind either.

I wouldn’t replace the entire cocofiber, I’d just leave it now. Well, since they don’t appear to be bad, I guess you can just leave the scorp in its enclosure. If you find any sticking to his joints though, those are the bad ones and you’ll need to quarantine the scorp.

Btw, how do those mites behave? do they just crawl around the floor and over the scorp?



07/26/09  04:03pm

 #2045766


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 Thinking of getting emperor scorpion, but i know nothing!

From what i see they just walk around on my scorpion, im not sure why but this is all i have noticed, i havent seen one just standing still on it. They appear to just walk around, i havent spotted any on the substrate or in the massive log hide that is now its new home



07/26/09  05:59pm

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 Thinking of getting emperor scorpion, but i know nothing!

Also my scorpion has seemed to dissapered, buryed itself i am guessing.

This happened a few days ago, i was worried so picked up the log that is its home, he/she had actually managed to dig down the side of the log on the inside, actually under one of the logs arms. If you understand, cause its basically like a upsidedown U and it was under one of the 2 bits on the ground, actually dug down under there, so im guessing its gone down there again, was supprisingly quiet last night, no tapping on the glass like usual, so im hoping thats just it, theres no way it could of got out.



07/27/09  09:48am

 #2046182


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 Thinking of getting emperor scorpion, but i know nothing!

Ya, I know exactly what you’re talking about w/ the hiding under the log thing. My scorps do that all the time. When they’re hiding, it’s actually a good sign that they’re healthy. Emperor scorpions are pet holes, meaning they are more likely to be found spending time hiding than out and about, so your scorp has gotten comfortable in the enclosure and has chosen its home :D

Don’t worry, you’ll get used to not seeing your scorp for a while, it’s under the hide for sure. This is one of the reasons why i recommended a communal setup, you might be able to see one scorp while the other is hiding lol

The downside with the half-log hide is that they tend to dig right underneath one of the log’s legs. It’s fine that they have a burrow, but not where you can’t see the scorp lol.

What I did was I took out the half-log and instead, used a clay pot, a rather small one and placed it on its side and buried it half-way into the soil. This is the pot:

http://www.pixelperfectdigital.com/free_stock_photos/data/524/medium/010608_clay_pot.jpg

The scorp will go into it, using it as a hide, but if you position the entrance facing you, you can see the scorp hanging out in there. This also helps when you want to tong feed the scorp or get lucky and see it ambushing prey :D (I’ve seen it quite a few time and wow, they’re fast!)

I also stack pieces of bark I strip off of trees and stack them on each other to make a cool looking hide. I’ll get a few pics of my forest scorpion pictures for you soon. But yes, these types of hide are good if you want to avoid the scorp going into hiding.



07/27/09  04:06pm

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 Thinking of getting emperor scorpion, but i know nothing!

Ah good im glad it has, yeah its come out now so i know its still there lol :D

And yeah i might even actually get another one, but im not sure about the fighting and stuff, im STILL not sure the sex of mine lol, if i get 2 of the same sex would they fight? Or fight more than 2 of different? Tbh you were right about saying like "its a craze it doesent stop with just one" cause i already want another lol.

I will get another one i know it, but ill have to get another hide i guess, but that shouldnt be a problem, should be fine getting another of the samesize, but will just have to check sex.

Going on this picture : http://aqua-terra-vita.com/Images/Scorpions/SexingEmperorScorpions.jpg

I would say female is mine, but im not 100%





07/27/09  06:18pm

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 Thinking of getting emperor scorpion, but i know nothing!

Actually, male i think, lol.



07/27/09  06:20pm

 #2046322


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 Thinking of getting emperor scorpion, but i know nothing!

Well, I’m pretty sure they wont fight to the death. That enclosure is more than enough room for 2 emps. Well, 2 males would be a little worse than 2 females. With a male/female it’s tough to say cuz they might just mate lol. Females usually are the more powerful/bigger of the two also. The best combo would be 2 females...two non-pregnant females that is lol. Pregnant females usually end up killing other scorps around.

Well, it’s too bad you can’t get a pic up. Just look closely at the pectines. Are they closer together or farther apart (as in the females)? Are the "feathers" short or thick?

Btw, would you mind your scorps mating? I didn’t think mine would, but I caught them in the act just a couple of weeks ago lol. They actually mated twice that day.

Also, welcome to the addiction lol



07/27/09  08:42pm

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 Thinking of getting emperor scorpion, but i know nothing!

Ok i think its female, has a fairly big gap between the 2 pectines, also by the pic you see like pectines are sort of more pointy for a male, the females are more rounded? That would also make me beleive mines female, also the little things coming out seem shorter like the female does in the pic aswell. So think we can close the case on that one? lol.

And no i wouldnt mind them mating, ive seen pics in the scorpion book i have of them carrying the babies on there backs, would be cool to look at one for real i would think, see how it would cope.

But if they did mate not sure what i would do about the kids if they had any, would be ok in there for a while, but once they got bigger i dunno.

Also just randomly, if a scorpion had a baby, and once it grew up and got off the mothers back, and was like taken away. Waited like a year or something and put it back in the tank with the mother, would it be able to tell it was her baby? Or would it treat it like any other scorpion?

And thanks lol



07/27/09  09:02pm

 #2046458


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 Thinking of getting emperor scorpion, but i know nothing!

I’ve never heard of the pointy thing before, but if the pectines are farther apart and shorter, it’s more likely to be a female. I would just close the case as female to save some stress lol.

Ya, I definitely didn’t mind mine mating. At first I thought about all the little babies and how i’d have to take care of them, but I’ll leave that to the future lol. You can always post them up for sale :D
Sometimes people sell them back to their petstore too (i’d ask if they buy em). I’ve seen one w/ white babies on its back and it’s a pretty cool sight to see. Not many people get to see that type of thing you know? haha

lol you got some pretty interesting questions
Well, I’m not 100% sure on this, but I believe the mother would act most motherly when the babies are up to 3 instar (instar being the molts the scorpion has gone through, the 1 instar being a newborn, 2 instar being the first molt and so on). During these first stages of 1i and 2i, she will allow them to crawl all over her, but they usually climb off during 2i already. She might even eat a few of them which is not uncommon and will prekill food for her babies to eat (pretty cool eh?). After 2i, they can pretty much go on their own, but you’ll have to prekill food and drop it in for them most likely. Well, 3i they’re pretty much on their own I would think and can kill small prey (probably injured).
The mom can be left with them, but some people remove her so she doesn’t eat a few of them. But after a year, she’d probably not care or wouldn’t know anymore though. It’d be another scorpion to her and possibly another meal lol



07/28/09  01:10am

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 Thinking of getting emperor scorpion, but i know nothing!

Well the things are far appart so i think we should rest it as female, and yeah dw about pointy thing just me then lol.

Yeah i wouldnt mind mating tbh, and i have a local store with a big sign "We will buy your reptiles!" and they’re always sold out of emps so that could proove intresting, i was there earlier actually looking at spiders, was so tempted to buy this baby desert hairy, was only like an inch long and like 5mm thick i was like Awwwwwwwwwww lol.

And yeah well the tank will be big enough for them for a while whilst growing up, wouldnt worry about it too much as would take a while for them to get bigger, and yeah i imagen people dont see it often, i would find it intresting, and yeah in the book ive got on scorpion shows a emperor with the white babys on its back, also another pic of one eating one of its babies so yeah, i would feel bad for the baby though.

Another question: If the one i have atm (ted, even though its a girl its still gonna be called ted, the other one is gonna be bill, hence cause i love bill and ted lol)

Ive already got another hide, abit of coral bark or something its called, looks good to me.

When i can im gonna go back upto the shop i got my first scorp from and get another, have to make sure its male though i guess then, if they mate then im cool with it, ill have to keep an eye on them though i guess? Dont want them killing eachother



07/28/09  01:43pm
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