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 #1792829


Ratsnakedude
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   Message To: Ratsnakedude   In reference to Message Id: 1792665


 Free Handling Article!

"I’m not here to prove my credibility to a few stubborn kids who feel they know everything about the game because they can spout of a few snakes in Latin."
If spouting out names in latin is so trivial than how come you still think he was only talking about snakes? You are too arrogant, nosy and stupid for me.
07/12/08  05:40pm

 #1793139


Snakeman24
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   Message To: Snakeman24   In reference to Message Id: 1792797


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okay lets chat. I am willing to learn. Just not from a huge retard like you. I have a mentor in herpetology. I dont know why you are on this forum. I am here B/C i had an old account and picked here and there. When I met you i said to myself oh what a loser. You are rude and frankly a dumb jerk. I am not saying I know as much as you B/C i dom’t know you but i do know that certain adults are very ignorant. In no way was this originally aimed at you.....now it is. See ya later
07/12/08  09:51pm

 #1793140


Snakeman24
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   Message To: Snakeman24   In reference to Message Id: 1792797


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okay lets chat. I am willing to learn. Just not from a huge retard like you. I have a mentor in herpetology. I dont know why you are on this forum. I am here B/C i had an old account and picked here and there. When I met you i said to myself oh what a loser. You are rude and frankly a dumb jerk. I am not saying I know as much as you B/C i dom’t know you but i do know that certain adults are very ignorant. In no way was this originally aimed at you.....now it is.



07/12/08  09:51pm

 #1793530


SiouxsieQ
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   Message To: SiouxsieQ   In reference to Message Id: 1792685


 Free Handling Article!

I have a question for Snakeman24. What good is it going to do you that you can "FIRE OFF" Latin names if you have a cobra in front of you? Are you going to amaze him by your verbal skills and get him back into his cage? You have no idea about the people you are saying have no creditability... I would put my money that they know alot more then you do.
07/13/08  12:48pm

 #1793539


SiouxsieQ
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   Message To: SiouxsieQ   In reference to Message Id: 1793140


 Free Handling Article!

Also, when you can post a comment with no misspelled words... Then you can start calling people retarded and dumb. Till then, you might want to stick with school instead of cleaning snake crap.
07/13/08  12:52pm

 #1793631


Jparker1167
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   Message To: Jparker1167   In reference to Message Id: 1793140


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Quote:

i do know that certain adults are very ignorant



i think that goes for certain kids too,

like someone said knowing latin names when handling a cobra wont get you far, i believe that experience is alot better then what you get from reading a book. of course knowing latin names doesnt hurt but to tell someone that you know more about keeping snakes because you can post some latin names doesnt make you look like someone i would call for advise.

most kids get made that adults treat them like kids, but when you act like one expect to be treated like one. you go off and tell people that you know so much more about keeping snakes when the people you are saying it to was keeping them before you where born, common sence would tell you that they have more experience with it.

this post is not to any one person. never hurts to admit you dont know something.
07/13/08  02:01pm

 #1793640


Snakeman24
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   Message To: Snakeman24   In reference to Message Id: 1793631


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I know it does.



07/13/08  02:11pm

 #1793824


Taylorgilbert
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   Message To: Taylorgilbert   In reference to Message Id: 1793640


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heres a perfect example when my cousin an i were younger we absorbed chimmed in when we knew we were right an didnt go around spouting like everyone else was beneath us (my cousin just bought a brand new audi selling boas) but when he made his first trip to daytona and talked to all the marquee breeders they were shocked he was 17, i shouldnt know your a kid based on your posts calling people names is beyond childish



07/13/08  04:51pm

 #1793856


Snakeman24
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   Message To: Snakeman24   In reference to Message Id: 1793824


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Alot of people know more than me. I am just tired of being called an idiot B/C i am a kid.
07/13/08  05:18pm

 #1793913


SiouxsieQ
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   Message To: SiouxsieQ   In reference to Message Id: 1793856


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Maybe if you listen to what people say and ask intelligent questions, people would not say that. You are like most other younger guys, you want to let everyone know what you think you know. Even if it is wrong...
07/13/08  06:15pm

 #1793967


SinisterSerpents
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   Message To: SinisterSerpents   In reference to Message Id: 1793913


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I commend you for your skills in the actuall handleing of these animals but i think it was pretty stupid. I dont even like tailing my cobras
07/13/08  07:05pm

 #1794022


Snakeman24
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   Message To: Snakeman24   In reference to Message Id: 1793967


 Free Handling Article!

I would never free handle
07/13/08  07:55pm

 #1999343


Ih8venomiods
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   Message To: Eekster   In reference to Message Id: 1783229


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dude leave that to stuff to Ray Hunter.lolz(cobraman.net)



05/05/09  11:04pm

 #1999435


SoLA
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   Message To: SoLA   In reference to Message Id: 1999343


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I don’t have the time to read this entire thread, but this is not ground breaking news here. We have some old photos in a herp society bulletin of people free handling seemingly calm cobras and vipers.

For the record, cobras that are hooded are not calmed down and you are only manipulating their behavior to keep your chances of getting bit a little lower.

The article we have has some ladies with big eastern diamondbacks over their shoulders. Sure the snakes can be calmed down...but it is with a lot of risks we don’t really need to do.

Since we have people reading this who are probably raising hell and are freaked out but not saying anything...and we will hear from them only in big news...I will silence myself now and not give them too much fuel to work with lol.

Just know its been done so make sure to thank your predecessors when you publish your experiment : )
05/06/09  07:11am

 #1999670


Munky871
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   Message To: Munky871   In reference to Message Id: 1999435


 Free Handling Article!

LoL oh my god, this thread was entertaining. Although I think this is serious, I just cant help but laugh at TJP. Not in a disrespectful way, in the way that your completely right. I’m pretty young, and I’ve been the kid at the show that no one takes seriously. The only way to get around that is to learn from experienced keepers, and show them respect. The kid arguing in this post will never get any further than hiding behind his computer acting like hes smarter than everyone. I would almost bet he has never even met anyone at that zoo, and probably never even been there. We’ve all seen it before. People think because they are on the internet they can bullsh%t people into thinking they are professional keepers. Guess what kid, experienced keepers see through your crap...

And, its VENOMOID....how can you insult people when you cant even spell?

How dumb would I look if I was sitting here saying "you stoopid kids, you don’t no wut your tawlking about." When you take the hobby seriously kid, people will take you seriously...
05/06/09  04:28pm

 #2005019


Denial9945
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   Message To: Denial9945   In reference to Message Id: 1999670


 Free Handling Article!

Great looking cobras! I dont think free handling is very smart i.m.o. But Ive seen numerous people do it. Ive seen young guys buy venomous at shows for there first snake. But its there lives and if they want to risk it then go for it. I dont have a ton of venomous experience I have moved copperheads and water moccasins and pygmy rattlesnakes off the roads around here and I have owned two copperheads one for about a year and half and the other for about 6 months. And Ive never actually touched either one of them. They have trap boxes and anytime Ive had to move them around or take them to the vet Ive always used my hooks to move them from tub to tub or anything like that. I know there not the deadliest snakes in the world but I still would not want to take a hit from one.

But with that said after you keep a certain snake for a period of time you do get a feel for them and understand there behavior. I have a reticulated python here that is very pushy. I can hold her fine without being bitten but I have handled her so long Ive gotten a feel for her. My wife on the other hand gets her out and gets bitten. I am alot more confortable with my copperhead Ive had over a year shes not as flighty on a hook as my other one but I still dont think I could bring myself to free handle her. But again thats just my opinion. I thank you guys that keep cobras and gaboons are amazing and I hope someday I will feel experienced enough to be able to keep a cobra and gaboon. They are amazing animals!
05/15/09  09:37am

 #2009655


TheSurfer
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   Message To: TheSurfer   In reference to Message Id: 1792797


 Free Handling Article!

wow, this post was exhausting!!



05/23/09  02:08am

 #2010959


Froggymadnes
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   Message To: Guido1090   In reference to Message Id: 1788894


 Free Handling Article!

interesting. Now for an experiment as to why the mentality of hots is so different than non venmomous, because regular handling of most viscious non hot snakes will usually lead to a calm snake.
05/25/09  07:23pm
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